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Originally posted by Hueij
First they came for the Jews... They cried for help but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew...
Then they came for the kommies... They also cried for help, but I'm not a kommie...
Next were the gypsies... But I'm not a gypsie...
When they came for me, I cried for help... But there was no one left to hear...
First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I am not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I am not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I am not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, and there was no one left to help me.
Originally posted by Ecthelion
Two typical observations:
1. For Americans, property is more important than ethics.
2. Naitonal Socialism and/or Fascism aren't all that bad for Americans.
Nothing new after so many of our Americans have admitted to preferring fascism over communism.
I'd be ashamed if I discovered my own handle next to one of those posts.
I stand up and say it
How many people do you think live in the US? And out of all those people, you have managed to sum up these ideas from a sampling of how many?
Tell me. Does it make you feel better that in Germany, the goverment is afraid to allow people to express their views. Is the goverment afraid that thousands would join the right wing movements if they were allowed to?
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh
It's not the flag, it's the things the flag represents... I'm with KH on this one
The flag represents what they believe to be right. They are allowed to wave that flag regardless of its meaning.
Similarly, a homosexual has every right to put a rainbow sticker on their vehicle and cannot have the sticker ripped from their car by person or persons who believe homosexuality is wrong.
Freedom of speech can't be one sided.
"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
The difference is - we learn from history, you don't. We've had a democracy destroyed by voters because it was not properly protected, now it is protected. Call it a false democracy, but at least we (and the rest of Europe and in the long term the world) won't be rueld by fascists that easily again
They were expressing their rights to march and be heard
He was expressing his right to tell that to go to hell and **** off
All in all, thats the way things are supposed to go.
Here when you have KKK marches, you always have much larger counter marches. Which works out really nicely.
But the main thing is that both sides are allowed to march. Unlike some places.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh
Originally posted by Sprayber
But the main thing is that both sides are allowed to march. Unlike some places.
"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
Similarly, a homosexual has every right to put a rainbow sticker on their vehicle and cannot have the sticker ripped from their car by person or persons who believe homosexuality is wrong.
Homosexuals never ever marched thru my street, kicked in doors and took away my Jewish neighbours to exterminate them... I'm not American, free speech has it's limits over here and rightly so...
Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
Once again...
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Remember that. Words are just that, words. We may have applied meaning to them, but in the end they shouldn't harm you in any serious manner.
I never know their names, But i smile just the same
New faces...Strange places,
Most everything i see, Becomes a blur to me
-Grandaddy, "The Final Push to the Sum"
Originally posted by MacTBone
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Remember that. Words are just that, words. We may have applied meaning to them, but in the end they shouldn't harm you in any serious manner.
Problem with that is that it isn't true... People still get horrible nightmares whenever bald shaven kids demonstrate while waving certain flags... Maybe when the last Auschwitz survivor is dead...
Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
Once again...
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Exactly. He didn't grab a gun and start shooting the ******; he walked in and grabbed a flag.
Those of you who have trouble seeing the difference are "goddamn liberal candyasses".
that depends on whose flag it was. If he didn't own the flag, he shouldn't have destroyed it. If he did, than yeah, he had every right to and was expressing his free speech. Either way the group had no right to assault him.
Homosexuals never ever marched thru my street, kicked in doors and took away my Jewish neighbours to exterminate them... I'm not American, free speech has it's limits over here and rightly so...
Makes no difference about what 'fascists' have done in the past. And I'm willing to bet a small fortune that these marchers were not the ones who marched through your street, kicking in doors, and taking away Jewish neighbors.
"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
And I'm willing to bet a small fortune that these marchers were not the ones who marched through your street, kicking in doors, and taking away Jewish neighbors.
You are right, those marchers didn't... But these marchers march in the same beat...
Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
Once again...
So, as long as their opinion disagrees with yours, and in the past people with that opinion have hurt other people, it's OK to destroy their property, and otherwise harass them. Hmmm, one group persecuting another for their beliefs, sounds a little familiar...
I never know their names, But i smile just the same
New faces...Strange places,
Most everything i see, Becomes a blur to me
-Grandaddy, "The Final Push to the Sum"
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