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**Colon™** · April 7, 2002, 09:17

Mmmm I’m going to show some tourist pictures anyway, otherwise nobody gets to realise how nice Antwerp really is.

Cathedral of Our Lady

City-hall

Court house currently under construction, designed by Richard Rogers

Cathedral again

Central (railway) Station

First steel-frame building on the European continent

There are plenty more of nice pictures but I wouldn't want to clog up the network.

**JohnT** · April 7, 2002, 11:20

Great thread! How do y'all do multiple photos in the same post?

Ixnay: it doesn't look that bad, at least you have nice scenery.

Of course, those are photos made in the summer - I think that winters would be sucky, sucky, sucky.

Xarxo: I like that overhead shot of Barcelona (L'Eixample?) - those are modern designs and constructions? Looks like something I'd do with SimCity.

Odd: You got any color shots of SP? Or is it a grimy, industrial hellhole?

Cairo: State College is where my wife was born! She laughed at your modest use of the word "large" to describe Pennsylvanian forests: I've been there and I think "oppressively huge" would be more apt.

Solver: Good shots!

Looks like it can get cold though.

How many people live there?

Godinex: Costa Rica, eh? I could get used to that. Probably a bit humid. What do y'all use for roofing to make the roofs all red?

Asher:

That's one nice looking city!

ADG: I feel your pain.

Siro: Hiafra looks pretty nice! I like a city that has planners smart enough to keep the trees alive.

Anyway, I live in Knoxville, TN, population 300,000 (for the entire county). We have mountains to the north and east/southeast of us and this city has been here for about 200 years (making it a mere child to some of the ones on this thread). Our claim to fame is the 1982 World's Fair, the episode of the Simpson's where Bart, Milhouse, and one other take a road trip to Knoxville, and the University of Tennessee football and basketball teams. The center of town is Neyland Stadium, where 110,000 people congregate 6 Saturdays per year and worship at the feet of the almighty Vols.

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**JohnT** · April 7, 2002, 11:23

Does your city have a penis right smack downtown?

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**JohnT** · April 7, 2002, 11:27

Neyland Stadium.

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**Colon™** · April 7, 2002, 11:33

JohnT, you can only post multiple pictures by using vB code, but you won't be able to load them from your HD as with attachements.

**DanS** · April 7, 2002, 13:12

"Does that give the city a somewhat European looks? (bit like Paris or Barcelone but more orderly and modern) High rise never has been very popular around here."

I don't know, since I've never been to Paris or Barcelona. From what little I've seen of Europe (Rome, Florence, Vienna, Munich, Salzburg, Prague, etc.), I wouldn't take any similarities too far.

One thing that is distinctive about "official" Washington versus its European cousins is that it is decidedly masculine. Big, neo-classical federal buildings line the National Mall. Most made of marble and white/light gray stone structures. Sight lines that are miles long. European cities are feminine to me, and masculine structures do not fit in. Consider the Vittorio Emanuelle II monument in Rome.

Maybe it is different in the Northern cities such as Berlin, Paris, London. But just looking at the pictures you've posted, Washington and Antwerp contrast on this point.

**Cairo_East** · April 7, 2002, 13:44

Originally posted by Colon

Does that give the city a somewhat European looks? (bit like Paris or Barcelone but more orderly and modern) High rise never has been very popular around here.

Colon, isn't that steel-frame building the oldest modern skyscraper in Europe? I visited Antwerp this time last year and I was really struck by its beauty and cosmopolitan nature. I couldn't walk five steps away from the Meir without running into a ethnic restaurant with great food.

Any place that smells like chocolate and has incredible beer has to rank highly on my list of favorite cities.

Cairo: State College is where my wife was born! She laughed at your modest use of the word "large" to describe Pennsylvanian forests: I've been there and I think "oppressively huge" would be more apt.

It's amazing how fast the forests have grown around here. Most were clear-cut for the iron industry until the 1930's and they are now fully developed forest systems. Some of the oldest forests on the East Coast are located here, with certain properties home to 400-year old forests. It's so dark under the canopies that you feel like you're in Yosemite or the Olympic Mountains!

**Zoid** · April 7, 2002, 13:54

Damn, I want to travel

Somebody, give me a large bag of cash

**Eli** · April 7, 2002, 14:14

Bah.

There are absolutely no pictures of Ashdod on the net. The best I could find is this.

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**Sirotnikov** · April 7, 2002, 14:54

Originally posted by Eli
Bah.

There are absolutely no pictures of Ashdod on the net. The best I could find is this.

Excellent

**Zkribbler** · April 7, 2002, 15:21

Originally posted by JohnT
Does your city have a penis right smack downtown?

Oh man, now I have penis envy!

**Provost Harrison** · April 7, 2002, 16:03

Originally posted by Eli
Bah.

There are absolutely no pictures of Ashdod on the net. The best I could find is this.

Well do a Google image search. I can find plenty of pictures of Ashdod

**Colon™** · April 7, 2002, 16:17

Cairo, well it was the first building of this size to use a steel frame, so you could say it was the first modern skyscraper on the European continent but that’s a rather pretentious (people from Antwerp are like that

). The Eiffel Tower which, is almost 4 times as tall, is build 4 decades earlier, it just didn’t use a steel frame. The Empire State Building, which is 5 times as tall, is build just one year after it’s little brother in Antwerp was finished. So boasting about this is like the one-eyed pygmy boasting he’s taller than the blind pygmies. (sorry if that sounds convoluted

)
It has never even been the tallest tower in Antwerp, the cathedral above is quite a bit taller and a couple of centuries older as well. But it’s just a nice building.

Thanks for the kind words about Antwerp, it’s very nice to hear that.

Dan, I was allduing at the shot you showed of 13-stories tall buildings, I think it could fit in several European cities. That might particularly be the case in Germany, in cities where the centre (including layout) was rebuild from zero after the war and you get similar results.