France makes demands and the US laughs hysterically

[ZoboZeWarrior]

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"Ces maudits Français !" ...

[The Mad Monk]

I think that happens all the time, with Americans who are caught with drugs.

We don't say a word, other than standard legal council. Rightly so.

[Kropotkin]

I second Sagacious Dolphins statement. The man in question is a French citizen and that makes it to a issue for the French goverment. Do you remember that american outcry when a brat was about to get whipped with a cane in a southasian country (don't remember the country, Singapore, Burma?)? If THAT was an american issue this is an french issue.

[The Mad Monk]

IIRC, most of that 'outcry' was Americans complaining because we couldn't do that to the punks here.

[RGBVideo]

Originally posted by laurentius
Also, did the guy actually do anything? How can you kill someone who hasn't actually commited anything? What's with the capital punishment anyway, who is it going to help?

Republicans and they're intelligent kids, which feel that they have more power
when they kill someone? Ah, just kill those. Evil terrorists = France.

Nuke France. After you've nuked Iraq.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Tuomerehu


Republicans and they're intelligent kids, which feel that they have more power
when they kill someone? Ah, just kill those. Evil terrorists = France.

Nuke France. After you've nuked Iraq.

Just be sure to send over all those hot maids first .

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You might try to actually answering the questions I asked rather than nit-picking.

Never thought I'd here DinoDoc say that.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
Next time China wants to try an American for a capital crime, and wants to invoke the DP I will remind you of that statement.

OK, if the American was assured of a fair trial, you can certainly feel free to remind me of my statement.

Krop: Do you remember that american outcry when a brat was about to get whipped with a cane in a southasian country (don't remember the country, Singapore, Burma?)?

IIRC, Most of what you heard coming from America was support for caning the punk. I don't think that the government ever took an official position on that matter.

Roland: What are you talking about? I'm not understanding you here.

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Most of what you heard coming from America ...

So you actually know what I heard? Well I guess that explains those voices in my head.

Seriously; what I heard it was an outcry and an official statement... Countries usually get involved somewhat when one of their citizens get arrested, I do know the swedish govt often do. Not killing a French citizen might good for relations. Particulary since this man didn't actually do anything so the death penalty seems to be overkill in either case.

[Bereta_Eder]

I have no problem (actually I have) with america murdering its own citizens.
But when a European is going to be trialed in the US, death penalty is a no - go.

[Bereta_Eder]

The EU should push hard the US to abolish such barbaric acts.

[Roland]

"Do they really think that we need thier permission to apply domestic laws to a criminal caught in our borders?"

No, but France has a legitimite interest in the case from consular protection. What's the problem with that ?

[Kyle]

In regards to punishments, I'm outraged that US soldier only got 32 months for rape in Okinawa. Seems awfully lenient.


As to the previous questions, there are a few US conspiracy laws that allow for the death penalty.


Personally, I'd rather him get life (if he's convicted) in a Federal prision. To deny his martyrdom...plus, he'd probably get shanked within 5 years after the guards tell the general population who he is.

[Vesayen]

I think in the interest of inter-national relations we should honor france's request.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Not killing a French citizen might good for relations.

Not threatening us for following domestic law might be good for relations as well. Anyway, even though that the government is seeking the death penalty he isn't guaranteed to recieve it. The jury will be the final arbitar at this level.

Particulary since this man didn't actually do anything so the death penalty seems to be overkill in either case.

As far as I can tell, conspirators are still liable for the actions of the conspiracy even if they are prevented from taking an active part in the final part of the plan through a quirk of events.