Slavery reparations

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Did someone say something?

you meanie



Go back and read my last post on how I propose we could set up standard methods on proving who should be eligible for slavery reparations.

Loinburger would not want me to quote myself again.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by C0ckney


So let me get this straight. You don't see a problem with this $1.4 trillion dollars being taken from companies run by people who had nothing to do with the slave trade, thereby screwing the employees and shareholders who also have no connection what so ever to slavery. And being given to people who weren't slaves, or aren't even children of slaves (and in most cases we're talking 4 or more generations, not to mention the fact that many blacks in the US aren't even descended from slaves) for something which happened 150 years ago, that seems pretty ****ed up to me.

I think I've been pretty clear that I do not think that the lawsuit, as is, is ideal, or even close to it. But no, I have no problem with the basic premise.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by MrFun


you meanie



Go back and read my last post on how I propose we could set up standard methods on proving who should be eligible for slavery reparations.

Loinburger would not want me to quote myself again.

Sorry, ive had enough of this discussion.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Guynemer


I think I've been pretty clear that I do not think that the lawsuit, as is, is ideal, or even close to it. But no, I have no problem with the basic premise.

So you think it is ok to screw innocent people today for the sake of a 150 year old injustice. I'm sorry but I am having a real problem getting my head round that.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by MrFun


A DL on Apolyton -- that would be something new.

But I was still waiting for him to reply to my last post, which was how many posts back now!?

If we would allow for lawsuits against corporations in terms of slavery reparations, then it might be percusor to the state governments being sued for slavery -- the ones that were slave states, in spite of some people who claim that the Constitution does not allow that.

If that would occur, we would need to establish some kind of systematic, standard method in determining what African-Americans have enough substantial proof that they are entitled to a reparations check:

1) Verify that the black families today that claim they qualify for reparations to show how, generation after generation, they have remained in the poverty class, or the working class. Upper middle class and upper class blacks should be disqualified on grounds that they were exceptional in succeeding in spite of past slavery and discrimination.

2) Verify the black families applying for reparations that their ancestors were indeed, slaves. Go through the states' archives; go through any surviving plantation records that have been preserved; conduct gynealogical and genetic research for each family.

That may be a very good idea....BUT..... The burden of proof is on the people suing not the corporations being sued or anybody else.

I don't disagree with reparations per se, just the way this was done, PROVE that you are disadvantaged because of slavery. We can argue about it all we want, but arguements no matter how convincing( Gunymeyer ) are not proof.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Tingkai wont be posting for a couple of days, he got banned for being an immature communist ****head.

Was he the one who started the "I hate white people" poll?

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by loinburger


Was he the one who started the "I hate white people" poll?

Thats the one.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Tuberski



That may be a very good idea....BUT..... The burden of proof is on the people suing not the corporations being sued or anybody else.

I don't disagree with reparations per se, just the way this was done, PROVE that you are disadvantaged because of slavery. We can argue about it all we want, but arguements no matter how convincing( Gunymeyer ) are not proof.

Thanks for not ignoring my arguments.

So do you agree with all or some of the methods that I mentioned on how we could obtain proof of who would qualify?

Or do you disagree with all of the ones I mentioned??

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by MrFun


Thanks for not ignoring my arguments.

So do you agree with all or some of the methods that I mentioned on how we could obtain proof of who would qualify?

Or do you disagree with all of the ones I mentioned??

I agree with them I think, but it should be on the part of the Plantiffs to prove this, not the courts, not the defendants, and not the government.

If they can prove it.....sure, then of course you have to figure out a fair amount, which,I believe, will never be agreed to by anybody.

I just got on, so I wasn't ignoring you.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Thats the one.

Might as well have called it "I hate being able to post and get my point across"

Whatever his point was.

[rah]

When you say, trace back and see who's ancestors were slaves,
What percentate of ancestors would you consider to be valid.
100%
50%
I'm sure most people today would be unable to show direct lineage of more than 5%. Would that qualify?

I'm not trying to be picky, but standards would have to be set, and this issue would play an important role in your solution.


Personally I think penalizing companys today for doing things that were considered legal over a hundred years ago is absurd.
A lot of INOCENT hard working people would be damaged.

AND by the end of 20 years when all the appeals were finally settled, the only winners would be the lawyers. I see no justice in that.

[Lancer]

I should be exempt from paying reperations

If we are talking about 'the sins of the father',

Not only did I not own slaves, my dad was Swiss, my mother's family were poor yankees and they never owned slaves.

...but wtf, send me a bill.

[Caligastia]

Re: I should be exempt from paying reperations

Originally posted by Lancer
Not only did I not own slaves, my dad was Swiss,

You owe the jews then you nazi banker!!

[Lancer]

Caligastia, you're right!

The umm, check is ahh, in the mail, yeah, that's it.

[Caligastia]