Anti-drug war advert

[Imran Siddiqui]

Who then will take responsibility for the actions of those who are high? The ones that become violent when high? The ones that harm themselves and especially the ones that harm others?

We have laws for people like them.

We were playing a little hypothetical game, and you failed to play Imran. I was just asking, if you knew (hypothetically now) that your money helped kill even one person, would that be ok? (It's ok, it's a hypothetical question!) Would you continue supporting your indulgence even though you knew others could die at your expense?

I thought the answer was perfectly clear on that through my posts. Perhaps I have to explain... YES, I would continue even though others may die at my expense. Hell, I do it every day if I drive a car (Global Warming/Climate Change will kill more than a few others).

So why don't you play this time, and the person you try playing is someone who cares about other things than themselves.

I don't have to if I don't want to. Capitalism man, get with the picture. It's all about free choice.

[drake]

All cheese? Can you back up the assertion that all hard drugs are linked to terrorism?

Certainly not.....

I was just pointing out that my own selfish needs and indulgences would take a back seat if I knew people were dying over them. I don't need cheese bad enough to gamble other peoples lives for it. I don't have the "the world centers around me" attitude that Imran has.

Is it just me, or is it not cool around here to think obeying the law is a good thing?

[Ramo]

Gah! It's enough to make me retch!

Indeed. There're half a million non-violent drug offenders are locked up in the US prison system, and people like you don't seem to give a damn.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If the law is immoral then no. Would you follow the law if you were in Nazi Germany? Why or why not?

And yes, I believe in individualism. You call 'world centers around me'. Your totalitarianism of the mob isnt' desirable to me.

[Ramo]

I was just pointing out that my own selfish needs and indulgences would take a back seat if I knew people were dying over them.

Again, have you bought that electric car yet?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ramo, drake seems to be in the mood of avoiding questions .

I want to have a resonse to my Prohibition statement as well.

[mactbone]

Yes, harming someone is illegal. So shouldn't we prevent it? If you take drugs, the probability that you will harm someone is multiplied many times over.

How many of you would take a hit before driving a car or going to work? Not many of you, because you know that your oerceptions are altered and that you will not be able to perform your job up to your usual standards. But not everyone is that smart! There are tons of idiots that will take a hit, get high, and end up harming someone. Now, does it make that person that was hurt feel any better that the person who hurt them is going to jail? Or that the probability of it happenening used to be many times lower when it was illegal for a multitude of reasons?

[drake]

Such a nice attitude you have Imran..........it's that selfish attitude that cause people to hate Americans. It's no suprise that some are disgusted by us Americans.

It's too bad you were raised in such an obviously pampered environment. It's too bad your parents convinced you that you were better than everyone else. It's too bad you don't know your sh1t does in fact stink. I hope, for you and your personality that you one day look in the mirror and see how pathetic it is to live with such an attitude.

[mactbone]

On a side note, many precription drugs, though legal, are expensive. Why would illegal drugs be any different?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Avoiding the question again.

And no, I prefer not to live in your Fascist utopia where people should tell me how I should live and what moral I should hold . I'm an individual, not a cog.

Who says self-interest is bad?

Yes, harming someone is illegal. So shouldn't we prevent it? If you take drugs, the probability that you will harm someone is multiplied many times over.

If you take alcohol, Hell, if you take some countertop drugs, the probably that you will harm someone is multiplied.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Ramo


Indeed. There're half a million non-violent drug offenders are locked up in the US prison system, and people like you don't seem to give a damn.

I like how you misread my post. Can you PM me your secrets? Thanks!

(In case you missed it, my post was about the LP, not the drug war. Go back and reread it and tell me where I talked about the drug war.)

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by MacTBone
On a side note, many precription drugs, though legal, are expensive. Why would illegal drugs be any different?

Perscription drugs have high costs because it takes a lot of money to develop them. The high cost are passing onto the consumer some of the cost of production. It is to recupe the immense amount of money needed to make them.

Totally different concept.

[drake]

I am not a role model for living green or anything ramo, but I certainly have a lot more respect for the environment than the majority. The day electric cars become an affordable alternative, you can sign me up. However that day isn't today.

Imran, of course youre right about prohibition and all, and it was a mistake, and perhaps the war on drugs is a mistake....that is never what I was trying to get at. The whole damn time I was just trying to point out that the government isn't the one physically handing money to terrorists. The drug buyers are. Whether or not it should or shouldnt be illegal has never been the issue. It is illegal, and will continue to be illegal. People can say "well it shouldnt be illegal", but the money they spend on drugs could still be going into terrorism. It's the old point the finger at someone else excuse. I buy drugs, therefore I might be contributing to terrorism and therfore might have helped to kill people. Thats the only point the ad made, and thats the only point I was trying to get across. It's cut and dry. Peace.

[Ramo]

On a side note, many precription drugs, though legal, are expensive. Why would illegal drugs be any different?

Because the information to make "illegal drugs" is not private intellectual property.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I buy drugs, therefore I might be contributing to terrorism and therfore might have helped to kill people.

Ok... but where do you go from there? Simply because your purchase MAY have caused people to die, doesn't mean anything.

I purchase oil, which may go to Iranian coffers, which may go to Hezbollah, who may kill people.

As you say:

The day electric cars become an affordable alternative, you can sign me up. However that day isn't today.

Aren't YOU being selfish here? Why does it have to be affordable? Oil might be killing people. Who cares about the cost to prevent that? After all, isn't that the argument you are making?

And John, the government, not the LP brought the issue up. The ad wasn't payed for by the LP .