How Many Racists Does It Take to Screw in a Lightbulb?

[Caligastia]

I never judge individuals based on race. No race has the monopoly on idiots or geniuses.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Caligastia
I never judge individuals based on race. No race has the monopoly on idiots.

Exactly, that monopoly is held by me. I'm so tired that I just had edited my last post 3 times! However, the original post would have led this thread down an interesting path.

[Caligastia]

any chance you could repost it?

[DaShi]

No, because I can't and don't want to defend it.

[Caligastia]

Pleeeeeeeeeease!!!

[DaShi]

Thinking back on it, it really wasn't so bad. It just lends itself to bad conclusions. Just replace athletes with racists.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by Caligastia
I never judge individuals based on race. No race has the monopoly on idiots or geniuses.

I think the point here is that, not only does no race have a monopoly on idiots or geniuses, but that no race has a higher proportion of idiots or geniuses (if we remove environmental influences).

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by ranskaldan


I think the point here is that, not only does no race have a monopoly on idiots or geniuses, but that no race has a higher proportion of idiots or geniuses (if we remove environmental influences).

As nice as that would be its just not true. Different races have different abilities, but I would never hold that against anyone and neither would I make an assumption on an individual based on race.

[Ramo]

"I think the point here is that, not only does no race have a monopoly on idiots or geniuses, but that no race has a higher proportion of idiots or geniuses (if we remove environmental influences)."

As nice as that would be its just not true. Different races have different abilities, but I would never hold that against anyone and neither would I make an assumption on an individual based on race.

Total bull****!

You still haven't provided any evidence for your absurd assertion that cold environments select more intelligent humans, nor have you refuted my statements.

[Caligastia]

I really cant be bothered. Im not going to change your mind and you wont change mine. I have researched both sides of this and my conclusions are not based on hate of any kind.

Peace

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by Caligastia


As nice as that would be its just not true. Different races have different abilities.

Exactly. That's the "racism" that a lot of people have problems with.

Besides

1) Why did civilization start in, of all places, the Fertile Crescent, a semi-arid area far from cold?

2) Why aren't Inuit ruling the world now?

3) Why, anyway, is a cold environment supposed to select for higher intelligence, other than that it calls for clothing making skills? Isn't a tropical world just as hazardous as a subpolar environment?

4) Why is it that of 6000 years of human history, the North Europeans have enjoyed dominance for only 300 years?

[Ramo]

I really cant be bothered. Im not going to change your mind and you wont change mine. I have researched both sides of this and my conclusions are not based on hate of any kind.

Would you mind sharing this so-called "research" with us, since you're parading this ignorant tripe in a public forum?

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Caligastia
I really cant be bothered. Im not going to change your mind and you wont change mine. I have researched both sides of this and my conclusions are not based on hate of any kind.

In other words, he has no facts to support his arguments. As for his research, it was probably done while sitting in a bar or watching afternoon television.

His conclusions are not based on hate. He just thinks that black people are stupid, that black people are fat, but physically superior to white and that white people are weak. Oh, and lets not forget that there are no bigots in New York city.

I have no doubt that he won't change his mind. His mind probably hasn't changed since kindergarten.

[Sikander]

Re: Damn straight, KittyHorse!

Originally posted by Ramo


You're just being pedantic! The definition completely rests upon where Anatolia begins and the rest of Asia ends. "Eastern Anatolia" might be slightly too far West, but it's close enough damnit!

Come on Ramo, I was careful to not dismiss your theory as impossible even after you stated it like it was the revealed truth of God. I haven't seen a theory for the IE homeland which suggested Eastern Anatolia before, so I chose the closest area for which I had seen a theory, which is East of the Caspian sea. There are a lot of theories, and precious little evidence. You might even be correct, but the stuff I have read doesn't point that way.

Originally posted by Ramo
Grimm's Law? Anyways, it's certainly definitive enough to cast serious doubt on Cali's Nordic ubermenschentheory, if not completely invalidate it.

My point is that the PIE's are most likely not the same people who lived in Ice-age era Europe.

Yea I agree, though we are way out there talking about the ice ages in the same conversation as the IEs. Trying to tag a language or a language group to a particular 'race' of human beings is a whole other mess. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the original IEs weren't caucasians for instance.

I think we agree that the whole idea of race is of precious little use to us. Aside from postulating that the Watusi would beat the Pygmy in basketball most of the time, ascribing abilities to certain races is more misleading than useful, and ignores and obfuscates the much more critical role played by culture.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ramo


Total bull****!

You still haven't provided any evidence for your absurd assertion that cold environments select more intelligent humans, nor have you refuted my statements.

David Landes used this idea in "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations" (a racists version of "Guns, Germs, and Steel"). His argument was that colder environments forced people to be more ingenius in order to survive. In short, bullocks.