President Bush is starting to remind me a lot of President Reagan

[yin26]

How do you know it wasn't sarcasm?

You mean like my response?

[Imran Siddiqui]

You mean like my response?

[faded glory]

Who cares......?


You've got a few meaningless and worthless opinions of foriegn troll's.





And you have got the facts...the 80's were when america truly became a Super-Power and Economic Giant. Say its because of Reagan, or it happened on a cycle. Who cares.


Reagan got credit for it. And now he is remembered bye all Americans.


For me personally, the guy made you feel safe from Communism and proud to be an American. (too young to care back then..but I remember it). The commercials, with people holding up "Made in the USA" products.


God those were the days.

Are you kidding? Our voters would fall about laughing if our political leaders spoke to us the way your Presidents speak to you i.e. like you're a bunch of little children. And you lap it up!

Thats a load of bullcrapish troll if I ever saw one. I saw that howard fellow a few months ago promising everything under the sky to people who would vote for him. And they guzzled every drop!

[yin26]

Pally: I'm an American who DID care back then. You see? Big difference there. And I also remember when I bought my Toyota truck that a lot of Reagan "empowered" goons were telling me it was my patriotic duty to buy a piece of sh!t American car.

To which I said: "It's my patriotic duty not to subsidize American failure."

[DanS]

Which of your tired theories are you going to mention next, AH? Children of the Reformation versus children of the Enlightenment?

Your politicians can't even manage a simple mass deportation, for chrissakes. Wow, what powers of persuasion they have!

[Alexander's Horse]

Hey, they aren't crashing planes into our buildings.

And if they set off a suitcase nuke it won't be in one of our cities either

[orange]

Originally posted by faded glory
And you have got the facts...the 80's were when america truly became a Super-Power and Economic Giant. Say its because of Reagan, or it happened on a cycle. Who cares.

No it isn't. I think it's more than safe to say that we were both of those things since 1945.

Reagan got credit for it. And now he is remembered bye all Americans.

it's "by" damnit!

[faded glory]

Sorry Orange


I have made that mistake so mannny times.


Yin, where did you live in the 80's??? (mid)


Regardless of how you feel about it. The majority of people would tell you how wrong you are. We had come out of the hangovers of the 60's and 70's. One of the worst American decades of the 20th century. We had a line of presidents who werent worth of ****...,Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Ford.... And when we elected Reagan. People finally found someone they liked. Someone who would wrestle with inflation, revive manufacturing, Restore national unity and pride, and finally...battle unemployment.

No it isn't. I think it's more than safe to say that we were both of those things since 1945.

True, But vietnam destroyed us. Our global influence was dimmed...and people thought it was only downhill from there. Reagan proved them woefully wrong...that we were to be taken serouisly.

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by faded glory
The commercials, with people holding up "Made in the USA" products.

"This Bud's for you, Mr 12-inch Hotdog Man!"

USA!

[Chris 62]

Man, Yin REALLY hates uncle Ronnie, doesn't he?

Actually commenting on the subject, there was good and bad in Reagan, but I can tell you what I remember.

People actually started having pride in the USA again.

Crazy comments about "winable" nuclear wars.

The Soviets being buried in an arms race.

The biggest stock crash since 29 (in 1987)

People actually working again.

Back room deals for hostages and arms in brush wars....

I think your getting my drift, not all was bad, not all was good.

One of the things I remember most vividly was the "no nukes" campaign, especialy when the USA wanted to place IRBM in Germany.

The music was much better, that's for damn sure.

Bush Sr just left me cold, he always seemed to be up to something.

I also love all the praise for Buba. DYK he's a Reagan Democrat?!!?

The Republicans aern't the villan here, as Yin tries so hard to convince us, nor are the Democrats.

Bad planning got the US into it's current fix, it started at the end of the Clinton years and overflowed into Dubya's presidency.

I also say a lot of you are far to hard on him, his decisions haven't been that bad, I doubt Gore could have done better.

Plus he looks like a chimp, always a selling point.

[DinoDoc]

I didn't know they played those commercials in Europe.

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
"This Bud's for you, Mr 12-inch Hotdog Man!"

USA!

Real Men of Genius!

[Immortal Wombat]

Re: I didn't know they played those commercials in Europe.

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Real Men of Genius!

Where other people would shy away from putting 300 pound men in Spandex, you dare to try!

[Transcend]

Reagan was the President who gave Americans renewed confidence and comptetiveness after the abyssimal 70s. The only negative legacy he created was the huge budget deficit. If Bush Jr can actually measure up to Reagan, I would be really really optimisticc about the coming decade.

[Imran Siddiqui]

HAPPY 91st BIRTHDAY, RONNIE!!!

[yin26]

I remember Carter, of course. My parents used to cringe everytime that "damn peanut farmer" came on T.V. I remember the energy crisis and people selling cola to those waiting in gas lines (I waited in a few myself ... we'd push the car forward instead of leaving the engine running). I also remember the hostage crisis and how the show Nightline was born ... and how we'd all collectively look in shock at each other as the show that started each night "Day X of the hostage crisis" became "Day XXX" etc. That whole thing was bad, bad news.

Funny thing, though, my parents now greatly respect Carter's initiatives for the poor and look back on him as somebody who was perhaps too generous and intelligent to be in Washington where greed and slick stupidity are the required weapons of the trade.

At any rate, America was ripe for a turn-around.

My point isn't so much that Reagan in and of himself is evil or some such craziness but that the average Reagan-lover goes too far in calling him a hero. He wasn't by any means. If you bought into this whole "America First" garbage then that merely means you are easily manipulated. And if you think that spending money recklessly is the solution to a slow economy, then all I can say is that you might want to read any of the number of studies on 'supply-side' economics.

America was desperate for a hero, I give you that. And if Reagan is the best we could do, we're in sad shape. Bush Sr. merely rode a wave that he had no business being on. Clinton, while a political genius, pissed me off by lying to our faces and thinking we are complete idiots.

Bush Jr. is nothing more than our brief social experiment in asking: "Can a monkey really run a country?"