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    The United States won the Vietnam War

    and nothing you can say will change my views on the matter. but feel free to try to change my mind.

    The U.S. has never lost a war. Militarily we did not lose in Vietnam. We had staggering success on the military front.

    In conclusion: The United States is the greatest military power the world has ever known in its entire history.
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    Does this have anything to do with this?
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    • #3
      yep, I couldn't resist

      and no this isn't a troll or spam thread. I really believe this. We did win every major battle after all.

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        In conclusion: The United States is the greatest military power the world has ever known in its entire history.
        Not exactly. Considering the technology that existed in the ancient world, the Roman Empire can also be considered the greatest military power, and so can the British Empire if once considers the technology that existed during the colonial era.

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          ahh the Germans handled them easily enough

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            Re: The United States won the Vietnam War

            Originally posted by Dissident
            The U.S. has never lost a war

            Even if we "won" Vietnam, which is, in itself, questionable, we sure as hell lost the War of 1812. Washington was burned to the ground. Our fleets got themselves torn a new one, both on the Great Lakes, and the Atlantic, our invasion of Canada was a farce, and our international reputation went down the ****-pipe. You can say we won that one if you want, but you'd be wrong.


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            • #7
              America's hegemony is built on fear. Its more powerful than rome because we dont have to fight our enemies. We demand them to comply, or we make examples of them. Some resist, (Iraq), others give in too what we want (China).

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              • #8
                Other then that (1812), though, I agree with you about Vietnam. My opinions might be different if I had been there, but I wasn't.

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                • #9
                  We did win every major battle after all.
                  Did you win World War II as well?

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                  • #10
                    That was quick!

                    I made my post at 15:30 (AEST), and someone makes a thread on it 4 minutes later.

                    Personally, I'd say that:

                    1. The Vietnam War was unwinnable by military means.
                    2. The US Military did OK in conventional terms (ie body count, battles won and lost, etc), but got it's arse kicked as the North Vietnamese/Viet Cong weren't really interested in fighting a conventional war against the US - their objective was to make the Americans go away so they could finish off South Vietnam.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by faded glory
                      others give in too what we want (China).
                      Like how you did with the Spy Plane?
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                      • #12
                        One might argue that the US won because it's objective was to halt the spread of communism. The US held South Vietnam long enough to ensure that communists didn't attempt to make the other countries nearby fall like dominos. They make the commies pay so dearly for South Vietnam, that communist aggression in the region was deterred. Of course, that's just a view.
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                        • #13
                          We did win every major battle after all.

                          Not quite. What about the Tet offensive? We lost that one.

                          As for the Romans, I really don't know enough about them to make any educated remarks, but I would have to disagree with you. Ditto for the British. However, I would be open to debate about this.

                          Steele
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Harpax


                            Did you win World War II as well?

                            Arguably, no-one wins any war. But equally arguably, yes, we did. We suffered fewer casualties then any other combatant, and we got what we wanted. We kicked the **** out of the Japanese, and restored Western Europe back to life.

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                              Re: The United States won the Vietnam War

                              Originally posted by Dissident
                              and nothing you can say will change my views on the matter. but feel free to try to change my mind.

                              The U.S. has never lost a war. Militarily we did not lose in Vietnam. We had staggering success on the military front.

                              In conclusion: The United States is the greatest military power the world has ever known in its entire history.


                              This a great thread for a laugh. The US won in Vietnam.

                              The US gets their asses kicked by a bunch of guys with basic weapons and you call that a victory?
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