Plane Flies Into Building

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Zopperoni
You can switch that off in your Security & Privacy permissions

Please tell me how. I beg of you. Everyone I've ever asked how to get rid of ICQ porn spam has told me to forget it.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Please tell me how. I beg of you. Everyone I've ever asked how to get rid of ICQ porn spam has told me to forget it.

OK, here goes:

Main -> Security & Privacy permissions -> Messages (that's under the Permissions header near the left bottom corner) -> there you tick the box which says "Do not accept World Wide Pager Messages"

Now you should not receive any porn-msgs anymore.

[Ecthy]

there's no such option there in the security & privacy thing, Z

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
there's no such option there in the security & privacy thing, Z

It's under Main, next to your status, fourth from the top.

[Immortal Wombat]

In my version, its the tab called "ignore" rather than messages.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Asher
I'm not American. Whoosh.

You're candian, they're worse
They're like Americans and French and Brits all together

"Yeah, my instructor should be along any minute..."

"Swell, and only then can you board the plane"

It wasn't nearby?

Well that's an important lesson to learn. Have armed helis all around.

Right, and the lackluster public security at american airports are directly responsible for it. Completely unrelated to this topic.

Aha, and the fact that a 15 y/o can steal a plane and crash it into a building does not show the lack of security

Part of what America values is freedom. They don't want to live in a military state like you, they want freedom. The chances of this happening are beyond remote, and hardly call for military-like security for all private airplanes.

Not military like, but SOME security.

What could prevent a terrorist saying "I have a class in a moment" hijacking a plane and crashing it?

Small cessnas like this are totally useless, it only damaged 2 offices.

So it's ok to have them crash into buildings?

And you're constantly under attack by the Natives.

They're mostly just as native as the jews
Most migrated here together with the jews.

You aren't attack by your natives since you killed most and then put them in reservations.

And the other natives are harmless being french and all

They did contact the plane.

And then what?

Shooting it down would be absurd, since they where likely trying to talk to him and give him directions. It'd be better taking a chance then to shoot him down and ensure that the plane is destroyed, aswell as making it go down in a fireball into the middle of a street or something. And not to mention the general absurdity of using missles on such a small plane.

But there comes a time when you have to take a decision of whether to try and talk him out, or it's too late, and one should save the people.

I agree that shooting him over a street could have been worse, but still, it's mainly luck no one else got hurt.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
"Swell, and only then can you board the plane"

I don't think you have a clue what most municipal airports are like. They do not have armed guards protecting every cessna...

Well that's an important lesson to learn. Have armed helis all around.

Actually, it turned out they scrambled F-15s. They didn't shoot anything down because they didn't know he was going to smash it into a building, and even if they did know at the last second, shooting the plane down over a crowded area is a pretty dumb idea. Rather smack it into a (fairly) abandoned building.

Aha, and the fact that a 15 y/o can steal a plane and crash it into a building does not show the lack of security

'****, this is not a commercial airport. They take off from little small airports, NOT commercial airports. Entirely different things.

What could prevent a terrorist saying "I have a class in a moment" hijacking a plane and crashing it?

Nothing, but they might as well crash a Ford F-150, they're about the same size as Cessnas.

So it's ok to have them crash into buildings?

You have to weigh some things into consideration here. Of course it's not okay for them to crash into small buildings, but it's also not okay to spend billions and billions of dollars on small airport security for something that's not a large threat. These planes can't be used as very effective terrorist devices at all.

[lightblue]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
I just have to say this: Only in America!

Obviously shooting your fellow schoolmates isn't cool anymore amongst kids. Planes into high buildings is the way to go nowadays.

I predict that the american 'Goth-trend amongst US trailer-trash/Ricky Lakes-guests will subside and all insecure teenagers will turn Muslim in yet another juvenile attempt to rebel against their parents.

Looks like you're right

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1746000/1746192.stm

So now there's going to be a spate of angsty highschool losers trying to grow a full beard and taking flying lessons .

[uh Clem]

IIRC, the two douchebags at Columbine (don't care to look up their names) talked about hijacking a plane and crashing it into a building...maybe even the WTC.

[Bereta_Eder]

stop press

that's propably the unfunctional link ligth gave but here goes:

Cops: Teen Pilot Supported bin Laden

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20020106/us/plane_crash_31.html

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Still, I'd thought american's have learnt a lesson or two in making sure people who aren't supposed to get to dangerous things like planes, don't get into them.

I don't think this is a security problem. The kid was taking flying lessons, something he had done for the past three years. The instructor tells him to do a pre-flight check and then the instructor goes to check on some other students. At that point the kid decides to take off by himself. In hindsight, the instructor should not have gotten out of the plane, but it is not a strange or uncommon thing to do. Most of us have done a similar thing by getting out of car while a passenger sits inside.

As for shooting the aircraft down, I think the authorities took a calculated risk that the damage caused by a crash would be relatively limited and instead tried to talk the kid down. The incident happened after 5pm on a Saturday so the likelihood of people being in office buildings was low. A 172 isn't going to cause a lot of damage in a crash,

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Now, does this make this an act of terrorism, or just one boy's sad misfortune?

Tough for me to say. He's 15, so I doubt he was concious of what he truely believed in. Still, he attempted to kill people and perhaps knock down a building in support of a terrorist mastermind. Tough call...

[Asher]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Tough for me to say. He's 15, so I doubt he was concious of what he truely believed in. Still, he attempted to kill people and perhaps knock down a building in support of a terrorist mastermind. Tough call...

If he wanted to kill people, he wouldn't have crashed the plane into the office building after the time most people would have went home, on a SATURDAY.

It's just a suicidal kid who wanted to die in the public spotlight, is my guess.

[ravagon]

Cnn is reporting that there was some semblance of a suicide note in addition to the, by now usual, pro Bin Laden support.

Flying a cesna into a building is more of a statement than anything else. Unless the guy was a complete moron he would've realised he could kill more people by driving a car into a crowded restaurant.
Bottom line: Some twit crashed a plane. End result: One lost light plane, a few thousand in damages to a building and one less nutcase. All in all a pretty fair trade IMO.

[Plenty more of all of these to go around in the US ]

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by ravagon
Bottom line: Some twit crashed a plane. End result: One lost light plane, a few thousand in damages to a building and one less nutcase. All in all a pretty fair trade IMO.

[Plenty more of all of these to go around in the US ]

There's actually a shortage of small a/c. Construction of these a/c stopped for years due to lawsuits making it prohibitive to sell build these aircraft. So it is a shame that a perfectly good Cessna has gone to waste.

And more seriously, it is a shame that this kid thought that suicide was an answer.