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  • #46
    Wiglaf wannabe
    "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
    You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

    "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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    • #47
      Nazism is rightist, you silly unclefunker
      Nazism is as far to the right as you can go.
      While whether Hitler's original National Socialism was rightist or leftists is still under debate, modern NeoNazis, as much as they can be categorized as anything but "arseholes", are pretty much in the extreme right.
      Errr, Conservatives are as NeoNazi as Left-liberals. Remember, all rightists are laissez-faire, quite much a contradiction to the nation-states the Nazis were creating, no?

      Our nice little Swedish rasisct-party, the Sweden Democrats, have very little in common with the right-wing. No, instead they want us out of the EU, want tariffs, reject all immigrants, foreign trade and products etc. A vast amount of tax money will be used to conservate the Swedish culture and to force all school kids to wear Swedish national costumes...

      Look at the political compass, Nazism is authoritarian. Duh.
      Last edited by Juggernaut; December 15, 2001, 02:14.

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      • #48
        "all rightists are laissez-faire"
        Its no anywhere NEAR this clear-cut. The use of left/right as political terms stems from the early French Revolution when in the Estates the (largely anti-king) Third Estate (which was made up of the common people) got sat to the left of the King and the (largely pro-king) First Estate (nobles) got sat to the right of the king. So right origonally meant authoritarian conservative monarchism, while left was classically liberal republicanism. Of course things have changed a bit since then, but neo-nazism is certainly just as "right" as classical liberalism.
        Stop Quoting Ben

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        • #49
          I kept scrolling down, but couldn't find the 'NONE of the Above' option...

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          • #50
            zhu: I generalize. If one doesn't generalize in a debate it's hard to desbribe or express anything at all.

            Like you say, what used to be a custom way to adress left or right with in the 18th century is irrelevant.

            "neo-nazism is certainly just as "right" as classical liberalism."
            I know it's custom to label racism & nazism as "extreme right" but that's an inaccurate definition, given that there are more than one axis to measure a group's or party's position. I find the diamond-shaped graph at www.self-gov.org the best try I've seen so far.
            Last edited by Juggernaut; December 15, 2001, 04:23.

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            • #51
              Boshko -
              The use of left/right as political terms stems from the early French Revolution when in the Estates the (largely anti-king) Third Estate (which was made up of the common people) got sat to the left of the King and the (largely pro-king) First Estate (nobles) got sat to the right of the king.
              God, I cannot believe the ridiculous origin of the left-right spectrum. To me, the more left you're, the more authoritarian, and the more right, the more anti-authoritarian. But that would make a lot of the social anarchists here like Ramo and you far to the right near me and conservatives like Bob Dornan off somewhere on the left. I prefer a simple left-right spectrum with authoritarians on the left or right with their opponents on the other end. But most (even virtually all) people are authoritarian, but not all of them want to dictate everything we do.
              But that doesn't mean they are less authoritarian than those who do want to dictate more of our live's. If they claim the authority to dictate some aspects of your life, they are also claiming the authority to dictate as much of your life as they want.

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              • #52
                "I'm a progressive extreme-rightwing European




                (België barst!) "


                Blok?
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                • #53
                  Yes...
                  In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
                  In een hoerekotje aan den overkant bennekik mijn bloemeke kwijt

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                  • #54
                    There was no center so I had to choose Right Wing Authoriarian ???? oh well...
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                    -->"Production! More Production! Production creates Wealth! Production creates more Jobs!"-Wendell Willkie -1944

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                    • #55
                      Assur, progressive extreme-rightwing seems like a contradiction in terms to me. Care to elaborate?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by DarkCloud
                        There was no center so I had to choose Right Wing Authoriarian ???? oh well...
                        To force undecisive people like you into a real choice!


                        I was going to right 'Facsist' in right-wing authoritarian, but I used the technical term you Evil Nazi Bastards use.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
                          This poll seems biased.
                          Poly is left-wing.
                          I refute it thus!
                          "Destiny! Destiny! No escaping that for me!"

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                          • #58
                            red_jon,

                            I concur with che and fart in your general direction. How come a political afiliation poll wants to know which area of the world the voter comes from. Worse yet, how come there's no Asia, the largest and most populated continent? If you have to cut something out cut out Europe, and make that part of Australia.
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #59
                              Right wing authoritarian Australian
                              Bit confused as to how Australia = Europe. Maybe about 40-50 years ago, yes, but tis a bit different now.
                              Whether you like it or not, history is on our side.
                              We will bury you.

                              - N.S. Khrushchev

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus

                                I'm Warlord Dimorier Maximus Arilius, son of Jeô Luc Futonomous Arilius, Emperor of Apolyton, and I am here to ward off the evil Rebels of Apolyton. Those who admit they are wrong must be exterminated with the rest. Bow down before the Emperors son or lose your head!
                                Erm, Commie Deity here. What do I care for a savage emperor: a mere mortal. I can whisk him back into the ether and usher in the revolution when I see fit
                                Speaking of Erith:

                                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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