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  • It might be obsenely expensive and marginally useful, but..

    At least it's not that vehicle Mr. Garrison invented in the latest South Park episode.
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    • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
      That's not an engine, Irman. That's just a control mechanism. It doesn't drive this contraption, it just changes the direction.
      Ok, it may not be an engine, but the control mechanism is revolutionary in itself. Imagine the technology in a few years, when you add some mph to it, and have something that can go 25 mph with minimal charging.

      Unlike computers, Ginger is just a solution looking for a problem.


      Kind of like e-books? or HDTV?
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      • Originally posted by monolith94
        Well, originally I thought I was gonna be cool and say "Well, there goes excercise as we know it" but instead I'll just post this intriguing thing.



        How do you get on the darned thing???
        That movie was merely a speculation as to what the scooter might look like before any real info about it was released. It's not file footage
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        • Er... e-Books are a solution to real problem. I can carry nothing in my hands all day, and still be carrying several books... if eBooks were further along. I can fit my palm pilot on my belt and the keyboard on my pocket, and I have decent word processing software on it. I've written an English paper while doing laundry.
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          • Er... e-Books are a solution to real problem.


            Bah, just carry some books! Just expend some energy!

            Sound like another argument on this thread? Perhaps one about walking v. Ginger?
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            • e books are wonderful, seeing as carrying two three books is unwieldy, not so much difficult in terms of weight.

              it's a hassle to be carrying two thick textbooks while trying to balance two loads of laundry while fumbling for your wallet to get the card out to swipe a machine.

              as for urban density....

              more open space?

              see, that's the problem with all the southern cities. nothing BUT open space.

              thus, more cars, thus, more roads, thus, more smog, thus, no pedestrians, thus, more open space.
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              • E-Books are too damn expensive. And where do you find textbooks for your classes in electronic format?

                I never have more than two text books on me at any one time, anyways.
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                • "Bah, just carry some books! Just expend some energy!"

                  -Walking with stuff isn't as fun. One of my classes is nearly a mile away, besides when I have something in my hands I can't break into a jog if I'm late. Plus, piracy is a lot more difficult with non-electronic media

                  "E-Books are too damn expensive."

                  -Ah, if only they were widespread enough to be freely available on Morpheus

                  "And where do you find textbooks for your classes in electronic format?"

                  -www.htdp.org, the most horrible book. My lin. alg. book is also online. I am thankful my CS book is online, because it's not worth the paper they wasted printing it, and we have to have it to know what our homework is.
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                  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Ok, it may not be an engine, but the control mechanism is revolutionary in itself. Imagine the technology in a few years, when you add some mph to it, and have something that can go 25 mph with minimal charging.
                    I still think that a joystick or something like that does that same thing without the added complexity. We still don't know how reliable that control mechanism is, it may easily break down.

                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Kind of like e-books? or HDTV?
                    Yeah Though WAP is the worst offender IMO
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                    • Oh please, HDTV is not a solution looking for a problem.

                      Look into it: HDTV production costs are cheaper (100% digital). The quality is far superior as well, plus it has a more appealing aspect ratio.

                      I think it's about time TVs became digital, too.

                      It's like FM vs. AM. You can get the music in AM, but the quality sucks compared to FM.
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                      • Originally posted by Victor Galis
                        Er... e-Books are a solution to real problem
                        e-Books is a silly idea for several reasons:
                        • All computer displays are poor substitutes for paper. They have a much lower resolution, and thus a lower density.

                        • New technology should produce new solutions to problems, not reinventing the wheel

                        • e-books are fragile and easy to break

                        • e-books can't survive doggie attacks

                        • e-books are expensive


                        Palm Pilots are not exactly e-books they are PDA's (personal data assistants).
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                        • Originally posted by Asher
                          Oh please, HDTV is not a solution looking for a problem.

                          Look into it: HDTV production costs are cheaper (100% digital). The quality is far superior as well, plus it has a more appealing aspect ratio.

                          I think it's about time TVs became digital, too.

                          It's like FM vs. AM. You can get the music in AM, but the quality sucks compared to FM.
                          Sometimes technological merits alone can't drive adaptations of new technology.

                          Think of all the existing equipment, all the legacy production, and the investment necessary for an upgrade.

                          Plus it's always the demand side that does all the driving. If people just don't see the point for a particular product or technology, it's just not going to fly.
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                          • "All computer displays are poor substitutes for paper. They have a much lower resolution, and thus a lower density."

                            -Er... you only need one page since the text can be refreshed You could even set it to scroll up the screen slowly.

                            "New technology should produce new solution to problems, not reinventing the wheel"

                            -Books are heavy is a problem. Try taking 4-5 textbooks on a vacation where you have to carry them in your hand for a decent amount of time all at once.

                            "e-books are fragile and easy to break"

                            -Depends on your carrying case. They are more compact than real books, and could be made waterproof and readable at the same time.

                            "e-books can't survive doggie attacks"

                            -Sure they can, besides your fault for allowing them to be exposed to a doggie attack.

                            "e-books are expensive"

                            PDAs allow eBooks to be displayed on them, eBook reader software will become free if the need is big enough (someone will make an open source reader). So no additional cost on top of a PDA, and you have the PDA anyway, why also carry a book.
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                            • Also, paper books require cutting down trees.
                              "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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                              • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                                Sometimes technological merits alone can't drive adaptations of new technology.

                                Think of all the existing equipment, all the legacy production, and the investment necessary for an upgrade.

                                Plus it's always the demand side that does all the driving. If people just don't see the point for a particular product or technology, it's just not going to fly.
                                Your argument would serve a purpose if they didn't require broadcasters to send HDTV signals by 2006.
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