NA back to their old ways of raping, excecuting and pillaging

[Ted Striker]

the Taliban is closer to Holland

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Bob Dornan
the Taliban is closer to Holland.

Absolut Dornan

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
I've had CNN on contstantly the past few, days, and the reports of looting were about people LOOTING TALIBAN GOVERNEMENT OFFICES.

CNN is not the same as CNN International. One is respected news agency which tries to report facts more objectively, the other is for us Americans. I always wondered why the Israelis were talking about how pro-Palestinian CNN was when to me it was terribly pro-Israeli. A hah! Two different networks!

Kinda like BBC and BBC America, or Guiness Stout and the stuff they call Guiness Stout in America. We get the watered down stuff cause we can't handle the real stuff.

To be fair to you, however, the report of the massacre in Mazar-i-Sharif is of 100 Taliban prisoners. The NA has a habit of killing prisoners of war, which is a war crime, btw. I'm not surprised, and I have no love for the Taleban, but this always comes back to bite us in the butt. In 20 years, some Afgani kid, whose family was killed in this war, is gonna drop a mortar round on the White House.

I hadn't heard reports of rape, but it wouldn't surprise me. The NA are in many ways worse than the Taleban.

[Kyle]

The NA, for the most part, seem to be killing Arab and Pakistani Taliban fighters. The Pashtun Taleban (ever notice US media spells it with an 'i' while the Brits use an 'e') seem to have the option of switching sides.

[blackice]

Markl thugs or no thugs the right way to do things is starting it also involves allowing the people to do their own sorting out. At least this way morons can not accuse them of setting up a puppet government as that excuse was getting old. So now what markl you have an idea lets hear it? Continue to let people suffer? send in your army? how about castro he could have cleaned it up real quick I would like to hear it markl you seem to think you know more that the entire international community so shoot...

[MichaeltheGreat]

Well, what did anyone expect? The Taleban summarily execute lots of people when they take an area, too. Lots of "Taleban" fighters currently aren't particularly loyal to Taleban's "ideals" - the armed thugs are the same no matter who they fight for at the moment. That's something that hasn't changed going back to the days of Afghan tribal warfare.

So, MarkL - are you saying an all-foreign US force should be fighting on the ground, after we first fight the NA to get them out of the way, and thereby lose basing rights with Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, rendering the whole point moot?

Or should we just let bin Laden alone, and let the Taleban continue imposing their cleansing "vision?"

You guys always have all the answers, so I'd like to hear what yours is, for once?

There is no nice clean solution.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kyle
The NA, for the most part, seem to be killing Arab and Pakistani Taliban fighters. The Pashtun Taleban (ever notice US media spells it with an 'i' while the Brits use an 'e') seem to have the option of switching sides.

They don't like foreign invaders as enemies. (as allies is just fine as long as convenient)

Also, the psychology is different. The "Afghan-arabs" and Pakistanis have no side to switch to - they are committed volunteer fighters, who can not go back home without facing the wrath of their own governments, unless they sneak through. Treating them with brutality discourages more from coming in, and demotivates those that are still around.

Allowing the Pashtun and other native Taleban fighters to change loyalties encourages them to do so - most are not committed fighters, but guys who needed a paying job, and they have no loyalty to the Taleban cause.

Technically (I think someone brought up the "war crimes" bit) the non-Afghani Taleban fighters are considered foreign mercenaries, and thus they have virtually no Geneva convention rights. Mercenaries are not looked kindly upon in international law related to warfare.

[Dr Spin]

So let them shave their beards, and air guitar Clapton.

Ask me if I care.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Ted Striker


MarkL sometimes you just make sh1t up! Have you ever posted a report word for word?

I've had CNN on contstantly the past few, days, and the reports of looting were about people LOOTING TALIBAN GOVERNEMENT OFFICES.

Maybe you should also mention on CNN how the people were shouting, "Death to the Taliban" as they fled the city.

The NA haven't had the greatest of reputation, but you might try posting the actual words people say rathar than putting a spin on it and then posting fiction.

To be fair, I would be shouting Death To The Taliban too, if I knew the NA was comming in right after them.

[Sprayber]

Which Is It

Taliban or Taleban?

[Shi Huangdi]

This threads just goes to show how deluded some leftists get. What they don't seem to realize is that Civil Wars are never clean times, and in modern civil wars, all sides get their hands dirty. And thus whenever we get involved in a situtation and we assist one side, they blame those atrocities on the CIA and moan about how horrible the USA is.

In the real world, if you want to get something done, you have to get your hands dirty sometimes. It is unrealastic to expect one side in any civil war to show full and complete respect for human rights, that wasn't even the case in the US civil war.

And by the way, Mark, isn't your country also involved in helping the NA?

[TCO]

MarkL you're just desperate for some **** to throw. But we don't care what you think. You can get buttlock for all we care.

Earth to Mark. We are attacking the Taleban for sponsooring terrorists who attacked us. We wouldn't be in Afghanistan otherwise.

[Ted Striker]

hahahahaha "buttlock"

[Moral Hazard]

Unimportant but the guiness stout we getin the US, has more alcohol per volume, just to let you know, so it aint watered down. (It is thinner however)

[Seeker]

"You can get buttlock for all we care"

LOL GP always gives us the straight ****!