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  • #31
    Saras, I suck at forecasting. So far, non of the predictions I made two months ago about October have turned out to be correct. I blame it all on 9/11 though.

    Roland, in fact, I have been busy. During the week I harass half of corporate Antwerp for a stage-place and the other half for a job, and during weekend I'm the village idiot at Freefire Zone.
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    • #32
      "...for a stage-place and the other half for a job"

      So what do you want now ? Not going to university ?

      "and during weekend I'm the village idiot at Freefire Zone"

      Tough competition there, huh ?

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      • #33
        No, I'm searching for a part-time job for weekends, but I intend to continue studying

        Yeah the competition is tough at FFZ particularily because several posters run at an average of a at least a hundreds posts a day. However, unlike as to the rest, when people say to me I'm nuts, they mean it.
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        • #34
          Unruhestifterschokoladenkopf,

          Still waiting on your unemployment predictions!!!
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #35
            Derek, give me a break, I had almost finished my calculations when 9/11 happened which turned everything topsy-turvy and I had to start all over again.
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            • #36
              "More venture capital down the toilette. Makes me cry."

              There's is nothing more depressing to me than to see such huge sums pissed away. I was depressed for a year when Iridium passed away, because I'm such a believer in the future of space exploration.

              Damn, innovation is risky. Can't we turn innovation over to the Austrians? Apparently, the Germans are no good at it anymore.

              "also the combo of opening the spending floodgate, tax cuts and a crappy economy will produce a nice deficit again."

              I realize this is a political necessity, but I don't like to see it at all. Our finances are good overall, but still...

              edit: speaking of innovation, I'm bringing out an SDI digital video input card for home theaters PCs...



              I'm thinking about the name "Claricine" or "Compucine" for the company name, but am taking suggestions and critiques.
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              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #37
                I really don’t understand how a forum with such visual-orientated topics, can have a colour scheme this awful.

                Dan, are you still pessimistic about the future of commercial spacefare? I don’t see how Iridium affects space exploration because it was meant for terrestrial communication, not astronomy.

                Any idea how much the capital-gains tax yields these days?
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                • #38
                  "I really don’t understand how a forum with such visual-orientated topics, can have a colour scheme this awful."



                  "Dan, are you still pessimistic about the future of commercial spacefare? I don’t see how Iridium affects space exploration because it was meant for terrestrial communication, not astronomy."

                  Entirely and extremely pessimistic. If you've ever tried to pitch one of these space deals, you know that people view them as extremely far-out. Even for communications!

                  Space hotel? Yeah, right! Could you show Mr. Schmelzer the door...
                  Orbital burial? You're ****'n me! Could you show Mr. Schmelzer the door...
                  Solar Power Satellites? Yes, I like fried eagle! Could you show Mr. Schmelzer the door...
                  Space mining? I saw a sci-fi movie once. Could you show Mr. Schmelzer the door...

                  See what I mean?

                  There are aerospace analysts like Wolfgang Demisch who will listen politely and have lunch with you, but Byron Callan won't. And I don't blame him.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #39
                    "Can't we turn innovation over to the Austrians?"

                    Only at small company level. For some odd reason, large corps always fail here....

                    And who's that Schmelzer guy withall that space rubbish ?

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                    • #40
                      Dan, have you been a representative of some sort? And regarding your pessimism, for what time period does it count?

                      I don’t know whether your pessimism is justified, communication hasn’t worked out very well but how about digital satellite TV and cheap, small satellites, affordable for private institutions and companies? The Russians appear to be taking a systematic approach to space tourism as well.

                      It’s not impressive but all beginnings are humble.
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                      • #41
                        Whaohhhh.

                        Calculations? You actually run the calculations?

                        I just take Anwalt's numbers and bump them up a little bit.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #42
                          Oooooops my calculator is broke! Guess you'll have to wait even longer.

                          For what time where making those predictions again? (need to know for how much longer I have to make up excuses)
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                          • #43
                            Damn I can't even remember.

                            I just wanted an excuse to call you Unruhestifterschokoladenkopf and use the ****er smilie.


                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #44
                              Gentlemen! Gentlemen! No fighting in the war room!
                              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                              • #45
                                Colon: I used to work for a start-up company that was going to privately finance the development of the next-generation shuttle, based on the X-33 design. Development costs were on the order of about $8 billion for the first 3 copies and would have been led by Lockheed's Skunk Works. I was helping out on the financial model.

                                Basically, the government was going to place a large number of launch orders (about $4-5 billion worth) and the company was going to fill out the rest of the launch schedule with private business. All very do-able.

                                However, NASA brought the project in-house and pulled the launch commitment--I'm assuming because they wanted more control over the program. Lockheed became Lockheed-Martin and the merged company became very risk-averse. They were willing to pocket the $1 billion in NASA contract money versus taking the risk on the bigger pot. We were the bigger pot, so we suddenly found ourselves without anything to do, beside pitch ever more "bizarre" non-space launch ideas to the street.

                                It's a devastating experience helping pitch these space ideas. Thankless, humiliating, and not at all profitable task. My boss just kept on pitching, God bless him. I supported his pitches for a while, but eventually became demoralized and left.

                                Get the picture?

                                That said, there are still some profitable commercial areas in space, as you point out. Remote sensing. Small-scale space tourism. TV sats.

                                Nobody's going to comment about my proposed company names?
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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