Dream on America: World Increasingly Rejecting US Model

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I see Ming closed my deadliest day thread - I predict this thread will be next

Why? The article is interesting.

[Alexander's Horse]

because its anti American, er sorry anti Republican, er new world order, you ninny

of course we all dream of playing baseball and eating hotdogs

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
"The average Frenchman, like most Europeans, lives nearly four years longer than the average American. "

does anyone actually attribute that to the French health care system, as opposed to lifestyle?

It's hard to tell, but certainly the low health care access rates in America must play a role.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Oerdin
By it's very nature a nationalized company is controlled by the government... which is controlled by politicians.

It's in the shareholder's interest - the government - to have a profitable business.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
because its anti American, er sorry anti Republican, er new world order, you ninny

of course we all dream of playing baseball and eating hotdogs

hotdogs

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
Are there any studies on how foreigners like American Democrat-style America? (I mean the one that had balls, 40 years ago, like as LBJ would have envisioned it).

I bet the numbers for it are about 110%. America's reputation has only temporarily suffered because of the recent minor ideological swing.

There's a difference about liking the US as a foreign country, and liking the US as a model country.

While I agree with you that a Democratic-led America would be considerably more popular than a Bush-led one, I don't think the international opinion about the US as a model of society will change that much.

[Edan]

Originally posted by GePap


No its not. Honestly, do you think "lifestyle" is enough for a 4 year difference in lifespans? I am sorry, but it seems a cheap and convinient answer.

Maybe the answer is cheap and convenient (and supersized!)?

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


This is politics at the Ted Striker level (Euro US Blue State US Bush ) not analysis.

[Ted Striker]

Mad props the original article, by the way.

The American Dream is officially dead.

We need a new model, as this one doesn't work anymore.

[Alexander's Horse]

It isn't a criticism of the USA to say other countries don't aspire to the American dream or American style democracy.

I can't recall a single occasion where I heard an Australian say I wish we were more like the USA - except perhaps in business. That's because we have our own traditions and ideas about freedom which are shaped by our own history.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
Are there any studies on how foreigners like American Democrat-style America? (I mean the one that had balls, 40 years ago, like as LBJ would have envisioned it).

I bet the numbers for it are about 110%. America's reputation has only temporarily suffered because of the recent minor ideological swing.

I would believe that was the period when America went from popular to hated. Vietnam, anyone?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
To be fair, South Korea emulated Japan's model... and the rest of Asia has emulated the South Korean and Japanese model for economic growth.

Even Singapore.

I am not sure what you meant by "the Japanese model for economic growth."

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Adam Smith
Philosophers wouldn't recognize evidence if it bit them in the ass.

Admit it, economics is just voodoo dressed up.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I can't recall a single occasion where I heard an Australian say I wish we were more like the USA - except perhaps in business. That's because we have our own traditions and ideas about freedom which are shaped by our own history.

Good for you. Herearounds, last autumn the Liberal Youth Union ran a campaing under the slogan "We want it like in the States!".

I'll never understand why they won't just emigrate ...

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie



They already are.

(I suppose that's a pun, because their etnic group is called Slave. The english word slave comes from the Vikings bringing home Slaves from the East as slaves)

Actually, the ethnic group is called "Slav" in English.