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    • Originally posted by Wiglaf
      Giancarlo: why can't a man get married to sixty other men? Hypothetically speaking, of course.

      And Kuciwalker, Thanks for your support
      AGAIN YOU ARE BEING MR. IRRELEVANT. Gay marriage is about two non-related people. NICE TRY REALLY!
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • It's a relevant question, are you on drugs or something.

        Why can't a man get married to sixty other men? Even if it isn't relevant, answer away.

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        • It is not relevant. Polygamy has nothing to do with gay marriage. NICE TRY. Try again mr irrelevant.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • It would stem from gay marriage.

            You'd have to let damn near everyone do whatever they want under the umbrella of marriage, now that procreation and tradition are so "irrelevant" to you.

            Tell me why the government should want that to happen to so fundamental an institution...

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            • Originally posted by Wiglaf
              It would stem from gay marriage.
              Just as it would stem from inter-racial marriage? Nice try really. It just doesn't work out. By the way, polygamy already exists before gay marriage is legal. Your argument again backfired on you, mr irrelevant. Homosexual marriage is very similiar to heterosexual marriage. TWO NON-RELATED PEOPLE.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • You think the number of people is fundamental to marriage, but that procreation isn't? Huh. 50 people can love each other too, you know.

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                • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
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                  • Originally posted by Wiglaf
                    You think the number of people is fundamental to marriage, but that procreation isn't? Huh. 50 people can love each other too, you know.
                    Again. Marriage is about love and committment. Again, you are being mr. ****ing irrelevant.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • Kuci: If you want to be an ass about it, fine, I retract my gratitude.

                      Giancarlo: 50 people can have love and commitment too....

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                      • I was wonder why you provided it in the first place... reread the post. Notice the "slightly".

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                        • No. Again mr irrelevant. In a marriage only 2 people can sign a contract. Nice try again.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • More than one person can sign a contract. You seem incapable of reason.

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                            • NO you are utterly incapable of thinking and reasoning. You have no reasoning skills. A marriage consists of two people.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Originally posted by Wiglaf
                                It would stem from gay marriage.

                                You'd have to let damn near everyone do whatever they want under the umbrella of marriage, now that procreation and tradition are so "irrelevant" to you.

                                Tell me why the government should want that to happen to so fundamental an institution...
                                Ah, procreation and tradition, those bedrocks of marriage.


                                Let's bring back the tradition of siblings getting married- hey, if it worked for the Ptolemies of Egypt, I'm all in favour!


                                Let's bring back that good old Biblically sanctioned tradition of a brother marrying his sibling's widow- to ensure the family name is carried on.


                                Let's bring back marriage within N degrees of consanguinity- o.k., there'll be a few hillbilly Habsburg slip-ups, but it should keep family property within the nuclear family, right? And those are some of the important things about traditional marriage- property rights and wealth.

                                Let's bring back child marriage- if it's fine by Jerry Lee Lewis, it's fine by me.

                                Let's bring back concubinage, harems, hell, let's resurrect those traditional laws FORBIDDING miscegenation, let's all get with the programme for the majority of societies on earth, which favour polygamous marriages.

                                And let's not forget those rarer but still significant (at least for tradition's sake) polyandrous societies.


                                And why don't some of us get married to local or far flung bodies of water? Venice seemed to do quite well by it.


                                And what about those lovely little ladies, nuns- they get to marry their god, but how the alimony is paid if it all goes pear-shaped, well, who knows. It's in the lap of the god(s).


                                And how about those fine Native American berdache and shaman traditions- of same sex marriage? I think they're definitely due for a revival.
                                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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