Issues concerning gays -- part XXXVVV

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


As I mentioned, the legal rights accorded to a married couple don't work with more than two people. They can certainly form marriage-like contracts, but marriage as we do it isn't possible between more than two people.

There are no impediments, outside of pre-existing religious bias, to multi-member marriages. From the states perspective marriage is essentially a contract and contracts between more than two people are obviously commonplace.

[Kuciwalker]

There are no impediments, outside of pre-existing religious bias, to multi-member marriages. From the states perspective marriage is essentially a contract and contracts between more than two people are obviously commonplace.

The marriage contract involves certain exclusive rights.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

There are no impediments, outside of pre-existing religious bias, to multi-member marriages. From the states perspective marriage is essentially a contract and contracts between more than two people are obviously commonplace.

The marriage contract involves certain exclusive rights.

Such as?

[Kuciwalker]

As I mentioned before, the right to determine what happens to the deceased's body. That's just an example.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
As I mentioned before, the right to determine what happens to the deceased's body. That's just an example.

That is not an exclusive 'right'. Children, parents, and other family members often interfere. Where there is dispute the courts can decide matters of polygamous marriages just as they can decide other family matters.

[Kuciwalker]

That is not an exclusive 'right'. Children, parents, and other family members often interfere. Where there is dispute the courts can decide matters of polygamous marriages just as they can decide other family matters.

Here's another, then: custody of children. How does that work out if, say, a guy has several wives, and he dies? What if the wives aren't married to each other? Etc. It just makes things incredibly complicated. If they want to write up a contract detailing all of that, they can.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
No it isn't. This is very much about love and committment. Say if Asher and his boyfriend want to get married, they should have that right.

We've been engaged for months.

I'm going to invite Ben Kenobi to the wedding when we have it (which won't be any time soon, due to monetary and social circumstance). I'll even pay for his plane ticket so he can see what true love is like.

Marriage is about love, not a vehicle for procreation exclusively.

[Spiffor]

If Ben doesn't come, I wouldn't mind you inviting me at your wedding

(gotta love a free ticket to Canada )

[Asher]

It costs more to fly from France to Calgary than Vancouver to Calgary, alas.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Here's another, then: custody of children. How does that work out if, say, a guy has several wives, and he dies? What if the wives aren't married to each other? Etc. It just makes things incredibly complicated. If they want to write up a contract detailing all of that, they can.

No more complicated that divy-ing up an estate with no will or deciding custody in a divorce. Legalizing polygamy is simply a matter of deciding to do it.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Asher

We've been engaged for months.

I'm going to invite Ben Kenobi to the wedding when we have it (which won't be any time soon, due to monetary and social circumstance). I'll even pay for his plane ticket so he can see what true love is like.

Marriage is about love, not a vehicle for procreation exclusively.

Aww.. I'm really happy for you. Believe me I am happy. Yes invite BK.. maybe his mind will be opened.

[MrFun]

I was busy for only about three days, packing my stuff in my apartment, cleaning, and doing errands and this thread has exploded in the meantime.



Sometime soon after I move back, I will see if I have time to read the posts, and then reply to some of them.

[Arrian]

MrFun, I read a few pages of Giancarlo v. Wiglaf, with occasional insights from Sava. For your own good: leave this thread and never come back. It's been Wisafezzed.

-Arrian

edit: there ya go, Savita

[Sava]

Arrian: Don't forget my important contributions!

edit: w00t!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by SpencerH
No more complicated that divy-ing up an estate with no will or deciding custody in a divorce.

In a divorce, there are exactly three people who can get the kids - the mom, dad, or State. With polygamy, there can be MANY more parties than there are people involved.