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  • Why all this fuss about sex-ed, abstinance only education, pre-teen pregnancies etc ?

    The solution is very simple - whenever a girl or boy are nearing sexual matureness they are equipped with a chastity belt and the key are handed over to the local parish admin. Then change the wedding ceremony a bit so it's a part that they get the keys handed over AFTER they have said yes.

    Of course, if they descide to divorce, then it's back on again.

    It doesn't even need to be the boring mediveal iron thingies, just take a look at http://www.chastity-uk.co.uk/History.htm - there are lots of chic models that will satisfy any teenagers urge to be smart dressed.

    Lots of money saved on unnessecary education - no more teenageparents and ditto children.

    Just one thing worries me a bit - i fear that a lot of teenagers will start to do serious research in lock picking.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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      • Not both. Don't tell me you're one of the "People " hipsters.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • Re education:

          Parents are their childrens guardians, not owners. Education is not a commodity - it is passing on the essential klnowledge that society has decided is key for its future citizens to hold, and what its citizens should know. Education is for the benefit of the children, NOT for parents. Hence what is taught must be what kids need to know to be full and useful adults. Schools are there to pass on civic values, not personal values like religion, or even abstinance. Education needs to give people the facts, and make them aware of consequences. Thats it.

          To deny kid information about sex is to leave their education incomplete. I don't believe in a society that enforces ignorance as a method of moral control.
          If you don't like reality, change it! me
          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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          • Moral
            Oral
            So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
            Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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            • Planned Parenthood and the discount pill:
              Sex in a loving relationship:
              If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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              • I do realize some people here get hardons from statistics, but that 22% figure doesn't mean there's 22% moral consies out there. There could be huge number of people who are only marginally more scared by Islamic terrorists or exploding deficits than by nude people on TV.
                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                • Anal sex is 100% effective at preventing pregnancy.
                  There is NOTHING wrong with that, as long as if you don't want children, you take precautions.
                  Frankly I think everyone should engage in premartial sex . Sexual incompatibility with your partner is something to be discovered BEFORE marriage, not after!
                  Exactly that kind of attitude is the reason why the amount of people with STD's in public colleges is exploding.

                  Parents are their childrens guardians, not owners.
                  Debatable, and depends from the definition of "child".

                  My understanding is that those who want to hand out condoms to everyone are those who understand that most kids are going to have sex, and given that figure it's the best way to help prevent unwanted pregnancy & the spread of STDs.
                  It leads to kids who don't buy condoms if they can't get them for free. Well, at least that was the general consensus among the playas when I was in school, few years ago.

                  TV's have "OFF" buttons. No one is forcing you to see it.
                  I can understand the parents' concern about this matter, it eventually ends up in the level of not daring to open the TV since you never know how sexual the content will be. And kids who don't watch TV are considered weirdos at school, so...

                  Ben Kenobi :
                  "Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."-Ann Coulter, Rivera Live 6/7/00
                  Source: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...terwisdom.html

                  Do you happen to know if that is a real quote?

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                  • Originally posted by VJ
                    Debatable, and depends from the definition of "child".
                    Not really. A basic test of ownership is whether you can sell something - something parents can't do in any Western country.
                    Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                    It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                    The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                    • Not really. A basic test of ownership is whether you can sell something - something parents can't do in any Western country.
                      Stem cells?

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                      • Stem cells aren't children on any reasonable definition.
                        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                        It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                        The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          Anal sex is 100% effective at preventing pregnancy.
                          As is oral sex. Unless she's going to spite it in her own cuche.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                            How have they abrogated their responsibility? If they have the responsibility to teach their children about sex, then surely there ought to be more acceptable methods of this education other than the classes they have in school.
                            Most parents abrogated it by being to big of cowards to tell their children the facts about sex and conception. Even if they did attempt to tell their children most parents just aren't informed enough to do a good job. The only way to insure every tennager knows is to have medically trainede specialists who aren't going to teach medical facts instead of the pack of lies abstinence only programs have told.

                            Some parents will do a good job but most won't but even still fundimentalist losers should be able to ruin their kids' lives by refusing to sign the form which would allow their kids to be educated.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • Originally posted by VJ
                              Exactly that kind of attitude is the reason why the amount of people with STD's in public colleges is exploding.
                              No it is. Unprotected sex is what's causing the problem. Guys hate using condoms and so they talk women into having sex without them. Just cuz you're having anal or oral (or both) sex doesn't mean you don't use proctetion.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • "No it isn't" -- not, "No it is."
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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