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nostro: that's true. the most sold cars in most of Europe are French, German or American (Ford & GM's Opel/Vauxhall). Though there usually are a good number of Japanese cars around too. Their problem is, that they are percieved as "dinky" and less sophisticated. I mean, the new Mazda 6 is a great car, able to compete with the BMWs and Mercs in the same class, but they just don't have the same reputation and are therefor less desirable. Ditto with the Honda NSX supercar. "Great car, but too bad it's a Honda."
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Wow, so you're telling me the average Japanese car has 0.5 fewer problems per 1000 cars then an American car? Thatis such a HUGE difference.
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In general Toyota and Honda are better at forcasting demand then the Domestics. They like to keep production just slightly lower then demand so that they don't have to put incentives on cars and to keep resale values high.Originally posted by Asher
Only when demand is much higher than the supply, which would also have something to say about why people want older Japanese cars...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Originally posted by Oerdin
Wow, so you're telling me the average Japanese car has 0.5 fewer problems per 1000 cars then an American car? Thatis such a HUGE difference.
err...what?
That's a percentrank, oerdin...
1.0 is the absolute maximum, and represents 100%...
0.5 is 50%.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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well, its in percents, so its got 50% fewer problems"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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Well it really means 50% as reliable. Or half as reliable.Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
well, its in percents, so its got 50% fewer problems
And that's with generous rounding...
GM is at 29%, Toyota is at 90%."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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what about euro cars?"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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I don't know anything about that company but it strikes me as odd that all problems are considered equal. For instance Nissan has a well known problem with it's pre-1999 V6s where extended high rpm usage results in barrings being starved for oil. The result is complete engine failure.Originally posted by Asher
err...what?
That's a percentrank, oerdin...
1.0 is the absolute maximum, and represents 100%...
0.5 is 50%.
It seems that would be counted as one problem just the same as having an air vent get jammed.
Also I don't know anything about Percent track so I can't comment on how accurate their numbers are or if their methodology is sound. I do trust JD Powers and Consumer Reports and they both say the quality is with in a few percentage points amoung the major brands. So either both of those raters are off or your rater is off.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Not so good.Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
what about euro cars?
BMW: 68%
VW: 27%
Volvo: 35%
Mercedes-Benz: 52%
Audi: 36%
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Also you have to look at models and not just companies. Different models with in a given company have big differences in quality. Both J.D. Powers and Consumer Reports takes this into account and rates each model seporately.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Well that's odd, because the source I listed uses Consumer Reports as one of the sources.Originally posted by Oerdin
I don't know anything about that company but it strikes me as odd that all problems are considered equal. For instance Nissan has a well known problem with it's pre-1999 V6s where extended high rpm usage results in barrings being starved for oil. The result is complete engine failure.
It seems that would be counted as one problem just the same as having an air vent get jammed.
Also I don't know anything about Percent track so I can't comment on how accurate their numbers are or if their methodology is sound. I do trust JD Powers and Consumer Reports and they both say the quality is with in a few percentage points amoung the major brands. So either both of those raters are off or your rater is off.
Read the methadology page: http://www.autooninfo.net/AutoonInfo/Methodology.htm"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Erm...so does this site.Originally posted by Oerdin
Also you have to look at models and not just companies. Different models with in a given company have big differences in quality. Both J.D. Powers and Consumer Reports takes this into account and rates each model seporately.
Please look at it, this is several times in a row you've said something outrageously silly."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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How come they rate VW and Audi seporately but give one rate for all of GM?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Get a convertable, They may cost more but they are real pleasure to drive. In my opinion well worth it.
Of course I'm slightly insane when it comes to driving with the top down, as long as it's 50 F + and not actually raining the top is down. I love freezing my friends
It makes driving to work and back not only tolerable but fun. Oh and get a car with turbo. 
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They rate VW as a whole as well.Originally posted by Oerdin
How come they rate VW and Audi seporately but give one rate for all of GM?
They also rate Chevy seperately: 32%.
Please, look at the site. Your attempts to debunk it keep backfiring."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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