Iran dug tunnel for military nuclear work

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Iran doesn't "need" nukes because Israel has them. That's a phony argument. As long as they don't decide to attack Israel, what exactly do they have to fear?

US invasion.

Consider: Iran started the uranium enrichment process again right after US attacked their neighbour. Coincidence?

Iran: What the **** are we going to do about it?

I don't think sending diplomats to take fake promises from clerics is gonna work jack **** unless our objective is to humiliate ourselves in front of the whole world. Iran is determined to get nukes now: they're afraid of US and hope that getting new evil boogie weapons will work as a deterrant.

[Dinner]

It's pretty clear the Iranians want to do what the North Koreans did. That is make promises, buy time, take the pay off money, but secretly continue to develop nuclear weapons any way.

[Drake Tungsten]

Iran: What the **** are we going to do about it?

For now, continue to use the good cop/bad cop routine with the Euros to try to convince the Iranians to disband their program. If that doesn't work, you may have to offer serious concessions in return for Iranian cooperation (some sort of normalization of relations, most likely). If all else fails, military options will probably come into play. I'm sure we have guys planning out right now the best way to attempt to destroy or seriously degrade the Iranian weapons program via air strikes.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Edan


Maybe it's because you never made it?

You stated that:



I've shown examples where the technology has spread to, but where nuclear weapons have not proliferated.

Only as a matter of choice. If any of those countries decide that they do need nuclear weapons, they would have them in a matter of weeks.


And likewise, they can also help another country or organization build nuclear weapons - volountarily or not.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Iran: What the **** are we going to do about it?

For now, continue to use the good cop/bad cop routine with the Euros to try to convince the Iranians to disband their program. If that doesn't work, you may have to offer serious concessions in return for Iranian cooperation (some sort of normalization of relations, most likely). If all else fails, military options will probably come into play. I'm sure we have guys planning out right now the best way to attempt to destroy or seriously degrade the Iranian weapons program via air strikes.

Good luck.

I suppose you missed the part where they were conducting their program in a tunnel under half a mile of rock?

[Drake Tungsten]

That's not the totality of their program. I doubt you can knock the entire program out, but you can certainly do serious damage. I'd prefer to avoid using that option, though...

[KrazyHorse]

How much do you think the Iranians are going to leave above ground that isn't easily replaceable if they think the US will send in the bombers? Let's not forget that we've already learned how vulnerable nuke reactors are to, say, Israeli bombs...

[Drake Tungsten]

If it was easy to carry out all their enrichment programs in underground facilities, I'm sure they would do that. Lucky for us, it isn't that simple a task, though...

[KrazyHorse]

Easy enough. Easier to put it above ground, but certainly not worth risking losing it all...

The Iranians are going to get the bomb sooner or later. Probably within a decade. The technology is becoming more accessible all the time and we've already had 4 bad examples in the last 6 years. NK successfully developed nuclear weapons and is still standing. Iraq made a half-hearted attempt and is gone. India and Pakistan built themselves a nice little stockpile and everybody's forgiven them...

And it's not like Pakistan or NK are that much more technically adept than any of half a dozen other countries we'd rather not have nukes...

[Drake Tungsten]

The Iranians are going to get the bomb sooner or later. Probably within a decade.

I don't disagree. I was just laying out possible options, since someone seems to think there are none.

[Last Conformist]

I'm pretty confident that nuking Iran to the stone age would stop them from getting nukes of their own for decades. Again, the question is whether the damage is less than that of letting the acquire nukes.

[Edan]

Originally posted by VJ

Consider: Iran started the uranium enrichment process again right after US attacked their neighbour. Coincidence?

What makes you think they ever stopped the enrichment process?

[Edan]

Originally posted by General Ludd


Only as a matter of choice. If any of those countries decide that they do need nuclear weapons, they would have them in a matter of weeks.

Perhaps, but they don't. Most countries that don't have a specific reason to get nuclear weapons don't, because they realize that uness there is a specific need to get them, they're far more expensivve to make and maintain and far more trouble than they're worth.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

Iran: What the **** are we going to do about it?

Some possibilities for what we could do is:

• Do nothing and hope that everything will just work out.
• Pressure Russia to stop assissting Iran.
• Work diplomatically to try to get Iran to halt it's enrichment process.
• Put sanctions on Iran.
• Blockade Iran.
• Launch an air strike
• Invade Iran.

[PLATO]

Iran wants nukes? I say let's send some...via Minuteman Missles.





just kidding