Feeling up women's private parts to fight terrorism

[MalevolentLight]

Considering the fact you think Arafat was a great man, that would be one good reason to profile you.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It means you spend more time searching people who fit the profile but you do not assume everyone in the profile is guilty.

Yeah, that's going to happen . I come back to the black example. How many blacks were stopped simply because they only matched on the first factor, ie, skin pigmentation? Not assume everyone in the profile is guilty! What will you tell me next?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
Considering the fact you think Arafat was a great man, that would be one good reason to profile you.

Considering you are a racist bastard who'd fit well within the KKK is a good reason to profile and lobotamize you.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Actually that is what the Russians orignally said. There is also specualation that the Russians didn't actually have security at the terminal and made up the story about the women hiding the bombs in their bras to save face.

That says one of the bombers bribed her way onto the plane but the other still snuck it in under her clothes so it is still a proven way terrorists can destroy a plane.

[lightblue]

So you are assuming they don't do that already? As far as i have seen people with baggier clothing get singled out for tap downs typically, I have seen it happen to a group of Orthodox Jews from JFK to Brussles.

TBH most of these incidents sound like slightly pervy/powermad officers rather than a functional search.

I reckon if you're a mid 20's man of Mediterranean/Arab appearance who travels with a few others, yuo're guaranteed to get it.

I jsut don't think you can make one rule for some people and another for others, it'll least to problems. Innocent till proven guilty right, unless you're Arabic I guess.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That says one of the bombers bribed her way onto the plane but the other still snuck it in under her clothes so it is still a proven way terrorists can destroy a plane.

How do you know the other snuck it under? What if she bribed security? What if security looked the other way? If one of the two got on by a bribe, I think it is highly likely the other got on by similar ways.

TBH most of these incidents sound like slightly pervy/powermad officers rather than a functional search.

I agree. It's a "legal" way to sexually assault women.

Innocent till proven guilty right, unless you're Arabic I guess.

Basically. One terrorist attack and my country goes to Hell .

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And all those other factors will be ignored if you can profile in favor of if you are a Muslim male we'll search you. When the big hubub about racial profiling was ongoing, did you think that rich black people who had no other 'bad factors' were not getting stopped? What did they call it? DWB - Driving While Black?

Imran, there is one glaring hole in your argument. No one is asked if they are muslim or not. How can we search every muslim male if we don't know who is or is not muslim? Instead we base it upon age, gender, national origin, citizen or not citizen, size of party, location, time of year, and other factors.

[MrFun]

I think Imran should have changed his avatar before seriously participating in this thread.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Considering you are a racist bastard who'd fit well within the KKK is a good reason to profile and lobotamize you.

Objection!
I don't think such a thing is possible.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No one is asked if they are muslim or not. How can we search every muslim male if we don't know who is or is not muslim?

Oh COME ON! You can't be this dense can you? Muslim names are really like Western names or Chinese names or even Hindi names, right? And, of course, they look like regular 'Mercians too. Of course some Sikhs get caught in the crossfire, but they look like 'dem "towelheads" so they should get groped too.

What an utterly idiotic argument... no one asks them if they are Muslims

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

It means you spend more time searching people who fit the profile but you do not assume everyone in the profile is guilty.

Yeah, that's going to happen . I come back to the black example. How many blacks were stopped simply because they only matched on the first factor, ie, skin pigmentation?

I've never seen anything to prove more then a few isolated cases of misuse ever occured. The media jumped on that because they thought there was a horse to beat there. The truth was these stops were satisticly insignificant. There was no vast conspiracy.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
What an utterly idiotic argument... no one asks them if they are Muslims

I hate to break up your ***** fest but you said "all muslim males" would be assumed guilty and that they could be identified by their names. Please correct me if I'm wrong but there are several million black muslim males in the US many, perhaphes most, still have their American names.

[Asher]

But I think it's safe to say 98% of all terrorists are arab muslims.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but there are several million black muslim males in the US many, perhaphes most, still have their American names.

Why don't we just profile based on religion?

I think we can all agree that 99.99% of terrorists are religious.

Religions.

[Dinner]

Agree religion is the major cause of terrorism.

I would ask that you please not quote a ML post with mine though as people may misunderstand and think I wrote ML's post.

[Asher]

I figure the best way to screen potential terrorists is to check if they are circumcised, preferrably in a very public place.

Most people are circumcized for religious reasons, or are otherwise part of backwards parts of the US with low intelligence.

That way, we'd get the most bang-for-our-buck with profiling.

Further, this will ensure most young Canadians are unaffected.