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  • #46
    And what do you do when a lunatic white woman smuggles a bomb "down there", knowing the chances of her being searched are next to nil?

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    • #47
      So in order to fly, you gotta consent to being molested... gotcha
      They have a choice and ought to be informed on said choice, if they can't figure it out themselves. Nobody is being forced to fly.

      BTW, picking sentences apart to make snippets appear harsher than they appeared in context

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      • #48
        I believe two Russian airliners were blown up because women terrorists hide bombs "down there" once on the plane several small bombs were combined to make one big bomb.


        Actually that is what the Russians orignally said. There is also specualation that the Russians didn't actually have security at the terminal and made up the story about the women hiding the bombs in their bras to save face.

        And now:


        One of them bribed the security to get on the plane.

        The reality is we need to stop random searches and instead start profiling.


        Which is always code for lets assume all Muslim males are terrorists
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Asher
          And what do you do when a lunatic white woman smuggles a bomb "down there", knowing the chances of her being searched are next to nil?
          You deal with the highest threat first then move on to the satistically insignificant ones.
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          • #50
            Yea, shock horror there's white muslim extremists as well. Kosovans, Chechnyans, Bosnians to name a few that spring to mind.

            And you can't discriminate on skin color anyways as that's asking for law suit after law suit, so better off being random in your searches. And I am sure that Arab looknig people get checked more regularly anyway already, you jsut can't keep it exclusively to Arabs or **** would hit the fan.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Which is always code for lets assume all Muslim males are terrorists
              Wrong, it means the most likely terrorist are muslim males.
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              • #52
                BTW, picking sentences apart to make snippets appear harsher than they appeared in context


                Its only harsher because the truth is being illuminated. You may want to ***** foot around it, but when people are seriously offended and crying about being groped by security, I think molestation is the proper word to use.

                So you want people to be molested for security's sake.

                Why not let the airliners decide?
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  Which is always code for lets assume all Muslim males are terrorists
                  But deep down, in your Male Muslim Mind, you know it's true
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    Wrong, it means the most likely terrorist are muslim males.
                    Which means lets assume all Muslim males are terrorists. Or do you think black people are overreacting to being profiled based on the color of their skin?
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by lightblue
                      Yea, shock horror there's white muslim extremists as well. Kosovans, Chechnyans, Bosnians to name a few that spring to mind.

                      And you can't discriminate on skin color anyways as that's asking for law suit after law suit, so better off being random in your searches. And I am sure that Arab looknig people get checked more regularly anyway already, you jsut can't keep it exclusively to Arabs or **** would hit the fan.
                      It's not just skin color my friend. There are other factors such as age, national origin, location, manner of dress, accent, what's packed in people's bags, how big is their group, what seats are they sitting in on the plane, how many carry on vs checked bags, etc... There are lots of factors to building a profile and race is only a tiny part of it.
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                      • #56
                        *NEWSFLASH* Profiling includes profiling by countries. But I think it's safe to say 98% of all terrorists are arab muslims. And if they want to file lawsuits, let them. I think it's about time we took care of some of these lawyers.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          Which means lets assume all Muslim males are terrorists.
                          No, once again you have it wrong. It means you spend more time searching people who fit the profile but you do not assume everyone in the profile is guilty. You are simply allocating resources where they are most likely to bring results.

                          I call that good governance.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                            I don't see why all this idiocy is necessary. All they need to do is to make sure intruders can't get into the cockpit.

                            Um, no . . . . .




                            for one thing, you don't have to seize the cockpit area in order to hold the passengers hostage.
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                            • #59
                              No, once again you have it wrong. It means you spend more time searching people who fit the profile but you do not assume everyone in the profile is guilty. You are simply allocating resources where they are most likely to bring results.

                              I call that good governance.
                              For once we agree on something. Somehow I don't think we need to search 85 year old white grandmothers hold their grandchildren's hand.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Oerdin
                                It's not just skin color my friend. There are other factors such as age, national origin, location, manner of dress, accent, what's packed in people's bags, how big is their group, what seats are they sitting in on the plane, how many carry on vs checked bags, etc... There are lots of factors to building a profile and race is only a tiny part of it.
                                And all those other factors will be ignored if you can profile in favor of if you are a Muslim male we'll search you. When the big hubub about racial profiling was ongoing, did you think that rich black people who had no other 'bad factors' were not getting stopped? What did they call it? DWB - Driving While Black?
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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