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  • Remember the nutballs who burned down HUMMER dealerships?

    So of you may remember the threads we had last August about several far left nut cases who went on an arson spree burning down several SUV dealerships in southern California. Well, yesterday one of them was convicted on multiple charges of Arson doing a total of $5 million worth of damage.

    It seems this guy could get five years in jail and his friends have all fled the country and left him there holding the bag. The really funny part is he's claiming he should get a reduced sentence because of mental disability! I believe several posters here at Apolyton made comments about the mental abilities of people who burn down car dealerships.


    HUMMER Firebomber Could Get Five Years

    A 24-year-old doctoral candidate at the California Institute of Technology could be headed to prison for five years or more, after being convicted on Friday of firebombing vehicles at a HUMMER dealership on Aug. 22, 2003. William Cottrell, a physics student at CalTech, was found guilty of seven counts of arson and one count of conspiracy, the Los Angeles Times reported. Cottrell testified during his trial that SUV dealers were "evil," the paper says. Cottrell's two accomplices, Tyler Johnson, a Caltech graduate, and his girlfriend, Michie Oe, have not been indicted and are believed to have fled the U.S. On the night of the incident, four SUV dealers across southern California were targeted and vandalized, with about $5 million in damage being claimed and 125 vehicles lost to the terrorist acts. Cottrell's lawyers are already planning on asking for a new trial, based on their claim that the convicted man suffers from a form of autism called Asperger's syndrome, which is characterized often by high functioning in school situations but stunted social capability.
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    Before you know it, we'll have a full fledged 12 Monkeys scenario on our hands.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      My cousin (age 16) has Asperger's. You will NOT see him burning anything down. Great kid.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #4
        @ Dan. Great movie.

        "I am insane, and you are myt insanity."

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #5
          Asperger is not a mental disability
          Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

          - Paul Valery

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          • #6
            It's like an LD, as I understand it.

            Matt, my cousin, is excellent at math, but several years behind his age group in communications skills. Originally they thought he might be Autistic, but the diagnosis was changed to Asperger's. They seem somewhat similar, but Asperger's being quite a bit milder.

            -Arrian
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • #7
              Most of the great scientists are suspected of having had it. The main problem with people with Aspergers is that they find it hard to make any friends or new relationships. Also the scope of their interest it very very narrow, wich allows them to concentrate on some specific area of interest, thus enabling them to be the superb expert on that subject.
              Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

              - Paul Valery

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              • #8
                Yes Arrian, aspergers is a mild form of autism.
                Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                - Paul Valery

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                • #9
                  So what is it if not a mental disability?
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                  • #10
                    Its a different mindset from the rest of us.
                    Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                    - Paul Valery

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                    • #11
                      Matt just seems to think differently than the rest of us. Hell, when he was a little kid he invented his own language. He had his own words for all sorts of stuff (and his sounded NOTHING like English), until my Aunt & the doctors she took him to caught on and figured out that it wasn't just a cute phase.

                      Smart kid, but he's definitely had a tough time with language/communication skills.

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • #12
                        Well, lets compare Aspergers of being blind. You cant see but you can hear and use your other instincts like noone else.
                        Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                        - Paul Valery

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                        • #13
                          Arrian, I wish well for Matt. The best thing you can do is encourage his areas of interest. If he is into something, he probably is into it BIG TIME. And thats exactly what makes him unique and a scarce resource on the employment market as well
                          Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                          - Paul Valery

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                          • #14
                            He's doing fine, laurentius. My Aunt has done battle with the State about his education (it's tough when your kid is both gifted - math - and LD - language/etc). It didn't help they were in semi-rural North Carolina. That notwithstanding, it's worked out pretty well. He's a couple years back in English skills and very good at math/science. As such, he can function reasonably well in society.

                            After all, his dad probably has really mild Aspergers. Never diagnosed, but Uncle Mike is not the most sociable guy (quasi hermit, really) but is otherwise utterly brilliant. This guy studied to become a dentist only to get blocked at the very last moment because he turned out to be a Hepotitus (sp?) carrier. So he became a stock broker (just like that *snap*), and then managed to get a research grant at the University of North Carolina to do research on - what else - Hepotitus. Then, 15+ yrs down the road, he suddenly tests negative for Hepo, re-takes the dental exam (w/o really studying) and blows it away. He now works for the state of NC as a dentist.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #15
                              That sounds kewl. If I had to have any mental disability, I want that one.
                              Monkey!!!

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