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  • Thanks Bush: Say Hello to Inflation

    Wholesale prices soar
    Report shows biggest jump since 1990, driven by surge in energy costs.
    November 16, 2004: 10:59 AM EST
    By Chris Isidore, CNN/Money senior writer

    NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - A key inflation gauge soared in October, the government reported Tuesday, as higher energy costs helped fuel the biggest increase in prices at the wholesale level in nearly 15 years.

    The producer price index, which measures prices before they reach consumers, jumped 1.7 percent last month from September, when they showed a slim 0.1 percent gain, the Labor Department reported. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had forecast a 0.6 percent increase. Citigroup's forecast of a 1 percent gain was the highest, according to a Reuters survey.

    The so-called core-PPI, which excludes often volatile food and energy prices, rose 0.3 percent, the same as the increase in September, and closer to economists' forecasts. Briefing.com had a consensus forecast of 0.1 percent.

    The jump in the overall reading was the biggest since PPI rose 1.9 percent in January 1990, the department said.

    The rise means prices at the wholesale level were up 4.4 percent last month from a year earlier, versus a 3.3 percent year-over-year increase in September.

    And while energy prices jumped 6.8 percent, but they weren't the only culprit. Food prices rose 1.6 percent.

    But it remains to be seen if the jump in wholesale prices works its way through to consumers, with some analysts saying the big jump in the headline number wasn't as bad as it seemed.

    "Clearly some of the earlier increases in the price of crude is beginning to percolate through the economy. We knew it was going to happen," said Sung Won Sohn, chief economic officer of Wells Fargo Banks, noting the recent decline in oil prices also suggests that energy costs would not spark renewed inflation.

    "I'm reasonably sure we've seen the peak (for oil) and it's beginning to trend down and that should do a lot to decelerate inflation," he said.

    Sohn and other economists noted the increase in energy prices was probably working its way through the economy before October, but had not been fully captured accurately until Tuesday's report. The September PPI report, for example, had shown a 0.9 percent decrease in energy prices, despite rising crude oil prices.

    Still, concern about inflation is one reason the Federal Reserve has been raising interest rates from artificially low levels, even while most inflation measures had shown prices staying in check.

    On Wall Street, stocks fell after the report. And in the Treasury market, bond prices edged lower, pushing the yield on the 10-year note up to 4.21 percent from 4.18 percent late Monday, as traders bet interest rates would rise further. Bond prices and yields move in opposite directions.

    Robert Brusca at FAO Economics noted that about two-thirds of the categories outside of food and energy showed actual declines or just modest price increases at the wholesale level last month, and that many of the categories that showed a spike in prices were not seasonally adjusted.

    "It's a bad headline and poor core, but it's not as bad as it looks," he said.

    Still, the report will mean that the consumer price index report due Wednesday will be watched even more closely than usual.

    Economists expect an increase of 0.4 percent overall and a 0.1 percent increase in core CPI, on average. In September, CPI rose just 0.2 percent while the rate excluding food and energy prices rose 0.3 percent.

    CPI is the government's main gauge of inflation.

    Traders were betting Tuesday's PPI report increased the chance of another Fed rate hike when the central bank's policy-makers meet next month. Fed Funds futures contracts at the Chicago Board of Trade showed about 88 percent of traders were betting on another December rate hike, up from about 84 percent after the Fed raised short-term rates Wednesday. Top of page
    Check out the markets... they're getting nailed because of this news.


  • #2
    This is good. It means that the wealth of the rich is now worth less.

    JM
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    • #3
      This means I can soon come for a shopping spree with my 5 euro bill
      In da butt.
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      • #4
        Wow, you guys are so optimistic

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        • #5
          wanha
          W's deficits ain't news, are they?

          This is good. It means that the wealth of the rich is now worth less.
          Rich don't keep their money sleeping at bank accounts anymore. They hire their own economists and invest in stocks. It's the middle class who usually keep their money resting in banks, to help them in case of emergency situations.

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          • #6
            That's right, the real rich are not taking a big hit, they own in real estate and concrete. There are really rich people but only few have 3029840935 million dollars in the actual accounts. Or even in stocks. Besides, I bet if you're real rich, you can cut a nice deal with the bank that takes some of that inflation into account. This mostly hits the people who already makes low salary.
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
              Wow, you guys are so optimistic

              They are making the word "optimism" into a synonym for "idiocy."
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #8
                I can hear the squishy sound of the masses being grinded into mincemeat.

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                • #9
                  I'm waiting for Ned or DanS to come and tell me "this is nothing".

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
                    I'm waiting for Ned or DanS to come and tell me "this is nothing".


                    again, "optimism" = "idiocy"
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tripledoc
                      I can hear the squishy sound of the masses being grinded into mincemeat.

                      Well, the only thing I hear, is the blood-curdling scream of the middle class people as they being squished to death in a giant vise.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • #12
                        I'm waiting for Ned or DanS to come and tell me "this is nothing".
                        Certainly a wait-and-see whether it is anything. The PPI is notoriously volatile and is weighted heavily to commodities, such as oil and natural gas. Oil prices have come well down from their highs in the last couple of weeks -- almost a 20% drop. We'll just have to see where they go from here.

                        As for Bush's role in all of this, it is precisely zero. His only action has been no action -- he decided to not tap the strategic oil reserve for short-term political gain, unlike Clinton did.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #13
                          As for Bush's role in all of this, it is precisely zero.
                          So, is your argument either:
                          (a) President has precisely zero control over the federal budget or
                          (b) Budget deficits have precisely zero to do with inflation?

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                          • #14
                            Well, maybe not precisely zero.

                            But almost zero. Bush's deficits may be pushing this a tenth of a percent or less. Most of the remaining is energy price increases over which Bush's role in pricing is extremely limited.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              Certainly the president ought to be held responsible for what happens four years after he's been elected.

                              His only action has been no action
                              Exactly! When it comes to domestic issues, this is a do-nothing president. Thats why he sucks.

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