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The Media widely proclaimed Clinton to have a mandate in 92 after he won 43% of the vote.
10% more than the other guy, IIRC.
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So, if Bush loses this means that the Republican party needs to rethink its policy. And if it wins... it means that the Republican party needs to rethink its policy? Can you explain this to me? Why change a winning strategy? And by the way, isn´t the hispanic vote a prove that moderates do have a room in Republican party?Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
As we discussed in the Warning to the Republicans thread. IMO the repubs have now an opportunity to have a big tent, they need to understand they need to make room for the moderates."Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
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One word: Why?Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Two words: Election Fraud
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You don't. Clinton won by 5.6%, 43% to 37.4%.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
10% more than the other guy, IIRC.KH FOR OWNER!
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Repubs were lucky in that they had Kerry to face. Given another ACTUAL candidate the story could have and should have been much worse.Originally posted by OliverFA
So, if Bush loses this means that the Republican party needs to rethink its policy. And if it wins... it means that the Republican party needs to rethink its policy? Can you explain this to me? Why change a winning strategy? And by the way, isn´t the hispanic vote a prove that moderates do have a room in Republican party?
This more than any other reason is the reason to expand the party to the big tent. Dems have adopted the minority position stand of going hard left. Now is the time to capture for the long haul the moderate center."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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57% of the country in 92 voted for someone other then Bill Clinton to be President. That's not a mandate at all."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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The Media widely proclaimed Clinton to have a mandate in 92 after he won 43% of the vote.
In fact, there have been only two Democrats this century to win over 50% of the vote: FDR and LBJ.
Actually, Carter won over 50% of the vote.
Clinton probably would've gotten over 50% both times if it weren't for Perot. The only reason why anyone got over 50% of the vote this year is that there were no viable third party candidates.
Dear Leader won by the smallest margin an incumbent has won by since Wilson. That ain't a mandate."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Then the word has no meaning given the scale of the victory the Republicans scored.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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They won Senate seats in a bunch of red states (and often by very little) and unseated a bunch of Texas Dems by redistricting ad absurdum, big deal.
The Dems did take Colorado, OTOH."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I was fourOriginally posted by Drake Tungsten
You don't. Clinton won by 5.6%, 43% to 37.4%.
Actually, I knew Perot got ~20%, and did the math wrong.Comment
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Clinton probably would've lost if it weren't for Perot.Originally posted by Ramo
The Media widely proclaimed Clinton to have a mandate in 92 after he won 43% of the vote.
In fact, there have been only two Democrats this century to win over 50% of the vote: FDR and LBJ.
Actually, Carter won over 50% of the vote.
Clinton probably would've gotten over 50% both times if it weren't for Perot. The only reason why anyone got over 50% of the vote this year is that there were no viable third party candidates.
Dear Leader won by the smallest margin an incumbent has won by since Wilson. That ain't a mandate.Comment
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Not true. If you look at the post DNC polls in '92 when Perot dropped out of the race, Clinton was leading by enormous margins."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Some here aren't quite coming to terms with the realignment going on. In 2006, Bush can campaign to unseat senators in a lot of states that were previously blue as the sky. Because of this, he won't be a lame duck for at least 2 years, which is an amazing accomplishment for a 2nd term president.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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James Carter Walter Mondale Democratic 40,831,881 50.08%Originally posted by Ramo
The Media widely proclaimed Clinton to have a mandate in 92 after he won 43% of the vote.
In fact, there have been only two Democrats this century to win over 50% of the vote: FDR and LBJ.
Actually, Carter won over 50% of the vote.
Gerald Ford Robert Dole Republican 39,148,634 48.02%
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True, but who's really vulnerable in 2006?Originally posted by DanS
Some here aren't quite coming to terms with the realignment going on. In 2006, Bush can campaign to unseat senators in a lot of states that were previously blue as the sky. Because of this, he won't be a lame duck for at least 2 years, which is an amazing accomplishment for a 2nd term president."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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