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    So, what can we expect from Four More Years?

    (NOTENOTENOTE: NOT AN ELECTION THREAD, SEE, THIS IS A THREAD THAT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION THE WORD 'ELECTION' EXPECT IN THIS SENTENCE, THIS IS ALL ABOUT WHAT BUSH WILL DO NEXT)

    So now that Bush has all but won the... ummm... vote-thingy, what will happen during the next four years? (obvious) predictions:

    - Liberals, Europeans will keep on hating Dub-Dub, and will in fact find a lot of new reasons

    - Iraq will still be a mess

    - Osama still won't be found

    - Who knows what happens with the economy

    - Pundits will still prattle on and on about red states and blue states

    - In 2007 and early 2008, Iowa and New Hampshire are slumped with a furious cadre of politicians, as both parties will essentially have an open-field primary

    Now for the less obvious ones:

    - Bush will experience a six-year itch in 2006 - some sort of a public scandal, if not Watergate-level, then at least Iran-Contra level.

    - At least 3 judges will keel and Bush manages to push conservatives to replace them in the Supreme Court. Biggest result: Roe v. Wade gets overturned around 2007. As states get around to banning abortion and pro-choicers vow to fight the bans by any means necessary, all the hell breaks loose. Blood in the streets, etc.

    - No big terror attacks on U.S. soil, though some smaller ones at other countries' territory.

    - No big new wars, though Iraq and Afghanistan will still be sore. Iraq won't have any sort of democracy that will have high marks from any impartial observers. If there are new wars, then they'll be in unexpected countries (expected countries would be Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Sudan.) Maybe in Latin America, if the lefty wave continues?
    "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
    "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world
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  • #2
    Hey, that's what happened the last 4 years!
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #3
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      Last edited by Ted Striker; August 3, 2020, 18:28.
      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • #4
        The 08 repub primaries will be very fun to watch.
        Stop Quoting Ben

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        • #5
          we could start with 4 more wars, 4 more tax cuts, and 4 more patriot acts.
          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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          • #6
            The 08 repub primaries will be very fun to watch.
            The 08 dem primaries will probably be Hillary vs. Stop-Hillary, and New Hampshire and Iowa will be all about who gets to be Stop-Hillary. Beats me who the candidates for that prodigious post will be, though.

            Frightening thought: Hillary vs. Al Gore
            "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
            "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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            • #7
              My fears:

              The divisions between the U.S. and the World and within the U.S. will deepen and become more entrenched. Bush is going to be unwilling to do what it takes to bring everyone back together. He will simply tell them to come and follow him and expect them to listen.

              The U.S. might start to get into an Isreal-Palestine situation regarding terrorism and the Arab world. If there are more terrorist attacks and Iraq continues to be a mess then a cycle of violence might well develop.

              A lot of what other people said too.

              -Drachasor

              PS. I am hopeful the second item I stated won't happen, though I am not sure. I strongly think the first item will happen, however.
              "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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              • #8
                - In 2007 and early 2008, Iowa and New Hampshire are slumped with a furious cadre of politicians, as both parties will essentially have an open-field primary
                I am really looking forward to this.

                Have we ever really had such a clean-slate election?
                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                • #9
                  Heh, a part of me was wanting a Bush win for the exact reason that there would be a good, meaty primary season, with politicians of both parties duking it all out.

                  Stop-Hillary will probably be a Southerner, male, and moderate. Any good candidates? I know one, but he's barred from running as he already served two terms in 1992-2000

                  If my Roe v. Wade prediction comes through, though, no-one could stop Hillary. Expect for revived FDR, probably.

                  Zombie FDR in 2008!
                  "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
                  "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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                  • #10
                    It's possible Bush will moderate in his second term, now that he doesn't have to worry about running again. Well, unless he decides to hell with tradition and pull an FDR.

                    Gatekeeper
                    "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                    "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                    • #11
                      The US will continue its fall in conservatism and religious bigotry. Stem-cell research will continue being banned.

                      No major war will be started by the US, at least none that requires an occupation.

                      Iraq will either be a mess, or will be dominated by a pro-US strongman - definitely not a modern democracy by any standards. Afghanistan will keep being the nice little feudal hellhole it has always been.

                      The "war on terror" propaganda will continue unabated. Just like the "war on drugs". For some reason, I don't see the "war on poverty" coming back to fashion.

                      Diplomacy won't be as terrible as it was during the first term. However, most countries will continue to distrust the US, and will look for ways to take care of themselves. Iran and NK won't stop their nuclear programmes unless a war happens.

                      Terrorist organizations will continue on their merry way, and will do plenty of small-scale attacks, especially against western interests in the Middle East.

                      Bush will not intervene too strongly in the Israel-Palestine situation. The American success in Iraq will depend on Bush's popularity in the Arab world, and he doesn't want to alienate Israel nor the American Jews. Hence, he'll keep the cautious stance he has adopted since the end of the Road Map.
                      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                      "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                      "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gatekeeper
                        It's possible Bush will moderate in his second term, now that he doesn't have to worry about running again. Well, unless he decides to hell with tradition and pull an FDR.

                        Gatekeeper


                        Ahh, I needed that.

                        One is typically moderate the first term so that they can get elected again. If anything Bush will less constrained by any feeling of moderation. That's how it has always worked in the past.*

                        -Drachasor

                        *Up to some point of of pragmatism.
                        "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                        • #13
                          Stem cell research is not banned.

                          Iraq will improve, and will have proper elections.

                          Propaganda?

                          Diplomacy will certainly improve, now that stallers will have nothing to stall for.

                          Terrorists will continue to pour into the nice little terrorist trap we've created in the mideast, and leave us alone.

                          Israel can take care of itself.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor
                            The US will continue its fall in conservatism and religious bigotry. Stem-cell research will continue being banned.
                            On a more positive note the state of California agreed to fund $3 billion over 10 years into stem cell research. To compare Bush only funds $25 million per year.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              Hmm..

                              - SCOTUS will turn into 6-3 conservative - less conservative

                              - Gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research etc will be repressed even further

                              - Iraq will still be a mess in 4yrs time

                              - There will be some form of draft to keep up the numbers in the military

                              - There will be air strikes (conventional and possibly bunkerbuster nukes) on Iran, remote parts of Pakistan and possibly N. Korea.

                              - I'd say there's a 90-95% chance that there will be an Al-Qaeda related attack on mainland US in these 4 years.

                              - Democratic primaries in 2008 will be between Obama and H. Clinton.

                              (probably not but fun nonetheless)

                              However, Bush will use his power in Congress/Senate and SCOTUS to declare himself God-Emperor of the world and makes Jeb his chosen successor.

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