Asking all English Canadians

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by Flubber

I don't get the "too cowboy" comment. I could understand if you said "corporate" or "cold" or "conservative" or even "Americanized but other than Stampede time I don't see Calgary as "cowboy" at all.

Dejon where do you live now?

By "cowboy" I meant right wing conservative tough love types. And you don't try telling me that Stampede time is the only time you see cowboy boots - 'cause I've been to Calgary enough to know that's not true.

Toronto

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


And of course, in the South, a majority of White Americans would vote YES to secession if only they weren't held back by the Black minority.

Separatists often hold and sometimes express this opinion. It's the ethnics and minorities (as one of their more eloquent leaders protested) that are keeping the true Quebecers down. It's insulting, undemocratic and wrong.

[Asher]

Originally posted by dejon
By "cowboy" I meant right wing conservative tough love types. And you don't try telling me that Stampede time is the only time you see cowboy boots - 'cause I've been to Calgary enough to know that's not true.

Toronto

I honestly see more cowboy hats/boots here in Markham than in Calgary.

But maybe that's just because Markham, ON and Austin, TX both work on the same products for IBM, so we've got some Texans up here.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by dejon


By "cowboy" I meant right wing conservative tough love types.

Ok I can accept that. I was thinking a rural or country setting and to me Calgary does not have that feels at all.

Originally posted by dejon


And you don't try telling me that Stampede time is the only time you see cowboy boots - 'cause I've been to Calgary enough to know that's not true.

Some boots but not a whole bunch and hardly ANY cowboy hats (outside the Stampede time and the cowboy bars).

Originally posted by dejon

Toronto

My sympathies, . Well maybe you like it there but for some reason I just don't. I like Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa , Montreal, Halifax and St. John's. I don't really like Toronto or Edmonton ( although in fairness I haven't been to Edmonton often-- I don't think you could convince me to bother with the 3 hour drive again). I'm pretty ambivalent about Winnipeg , Charlottetown and Moncton.

[Asher]

Toronto is highly overrated.

Traffic is a mess, pollution is insane, scenery is so bland, the city is overcrowded, and the suburbs are lifeless.

[Hot Mustard]

I never said Toronto was for me - that's just where I am.

My wife's in advertising, so to gain experience in national accounts, she had to work in TO. I can work anywhere, so that's why we're here.

Not that I hate it though...the scenery isn't so bland, as you say, in the fall - you don't get fall colours like here out west. And it is the arguably the most multi-cultural city in the world - which I like because I'll eat pretty much anything.

Seems I like the same cities as you, Flubber, but I haven't spent any time in the maritimes.

[Kontiki]

Toronto is a hole, but it so utterly and completely dominates the Canadian economy that it's hard not to feel the pull towards it at some time or another. I'm from Vancouver and would move back there in a heartbeat, but the reality is that Toronto is where the corporate jobs are, especially in finance.

[Asher]

Calgary competes very well for corporate jobs.

It's second only to Toronto in terms of corporate HQ counts in Canada, and it's the 5th(?) largest city in terms of population. That's a good ratio.

[Kuciwalker]

Your 5th largest city only has a million people?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Your 5th largest city only has a million people?

Why would that be suprising in a country as large as Canada with a population as small as we have?

[Flubber]

For the education of Kuciwalker. The population data is old- actually from 2001 and the columns are population , 2001 rank, 1996 rank, area in square km and density per square km

Toronto** (Ontario) 4,682,897 1 1 5,902.74 793.3
Montreal (Quebec) 3,426,350 2 2 4,047.35 846.6
Vancouver* (Brit C) 1,986,965 3 3 2,878.52 690.3
Ottawa–Hull 1,063,664 4 4 5,318.36 200.0
Calgary (Alberta) 951,395 5 6 5,083.00 187.2
Edmonton (Alberta) 937,845 6 5 9,418.62 99.6
Quebec (Quebec) 682,757 7 7 3,154.35 216.4
Winnipeg (Manitoba) 671,274 8 8 4,151.48 161.7
Hamilton (Ontario) 662,401 9 9 1,371.76 482.9
London (Ontario) 432,451 10 10 2,333.37 185.3
Kitchener (Ontario) 414,284 11 11 826.98 501.0
St. Catharines 377,009 12 12 1,406.2 268.1
Halifax (Nova Scotia) 359,183 13 13 5,495.54 65.4
Victoria (B.C.) 311,902 14 14 695.34 448.6
Windsor (Ontario) 307,877 15 15 1,022.53 301.1
Oshawa (Ontario) 296,298 16 16 903.23 328.0
Saskatoon (Sask) 225,927 17 17 5,192.22 43.5
Regina (Sask ) 192,800 18 18 3,407.84 56.6
St. John's (Newf) 172,918 19 19 804.63 214.9
Greater Sudbury (On) 155,601 20 20 3,536.10 44.0
Chicoutimi(Quebec) 154,938 21 21 1,753.67 88.4
Sherbrooke (Quebec) 153,811 22 22 1,108.16 138.8
Barrie ( Ontario) 148,480 23 29 897.46 165.4
Kelowna (British C) 147,739 24 25 2,904.00 50.9
Abbotsford ( Brit C) 147,370 25 26 625.94 235.4
Kingson (Ontario) 146,838 26 23 1,906.82 77.0
Trois-Rivières (Que) 135,507 27 24 880.47 156.2
Saint John (New B) 122,678 28 28 3,359.61 36.5
Thunder Bay (Ontario) 121,986 29 27 2,548.16 47.9
Moncton (New B) 117,727 30 31 2,177.23 54.1

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Flubber
Why would that be suprising in a country as large as Canada with a population as small as we have?

I know that, I'm just poking fun

[Garth Vader]

What would be 4th? I can think of only Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver that would be higher than Calgary.

I prefer smaller cities myself, Calgary was too busy when I lived there and it's only gotten worse in the last 6 years. It is pretty though, and I remember having lots of time to spend looking at the mountains while waiting in traffic

[Asher]

Ottawa is 4th, though not for long at this rate.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
Ottawa is 4th, though not for long at this rate.

For a while yet. It has a lead on Calgary and I understand it is growing pretty well in its own right (probably from all those bloated Liveral government programs )

heck the gun registry alone must have brought in 10,000 employess to Ottawa