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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jaguar
    I don't think we have that many great artists, especially in proportion to our size. We're certainly not like Spain or Italy or France.
    In terms of painters and the like, I have to agree. In fact, the only American painter I can think of is Andy Warhol, but I'm not sure if he'd actually rate as one of the greatest Americans ever.

    There are lots of great writers though: Hemingway, Cummings, Whitman, Poe, Miller, Asimov, etc, etc.

    And if you include popular musicians, actors and other pop artists then the list is endless. Many of them are amongst the most famous people who ever lived, world wide. But of course, it's very much an open question if they deserve to be in a top 10 of Greatest Americans...
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pekka
      Jorma Alakyrö (inventor of the idea of the internet that later on became reality with arpanet and all that.)
      clearly the internet is an American invention, thought up by Al Gore

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Locutus
        There are lots of great writers though: Hemingway, Cummings, Whitman, Poe, Miller, Asimov, etc, etc.




        American literature is the suckiest literature of all time. Asimov gets a "B", and he's the least sucky on that list.

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        • #34
          British literature is awesome.
          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
              American literature is the suckiest literature of all time.
              If you truly believe that, you should try some Dutch literature You'll change your mind faster than you can say 'WWII trauma'...
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              • #37
                I can't read Dutch

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                • #38
                  George Washington (general, politician)
                  Benjamin Franklin (businessman, scientist, politician)
                  Albert Einstein (emigre scientist)
                  Thomas Edison (inventor)
                  Nikola Telsa (emigre scientist)
                  Martin Luther King, Jr. (orator, civil rights campaigner)
                  Andrew Carnegie (businessman, philanthropist)
                  Henry Ford (businessman)
                  Thomas Jefferson (writer, politician)
                  Louis Armstrong (musician)
                  Abraham Lincoln (orator, politician)

                  Lots of scientists and inventors involved with electricity for us...
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #39
                    Bill Gates?

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                    • #40
                      Bill Gates
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                      • #41
                        Bill Gates is a good guy, but what is he "greatest" in? Andrew Carnegie already created the precedent of Americans giving their huge fortunes away to charity.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #42
                          Bill Gates is much richer than Carnegie was.

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                          • #43
                            There's lots of richest men in American history.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                              Actually there was a similar poll on the television to this in the UK...I think the winner came out as Isambard Kingdom Brunel...I can't remember the others, but needless to say, f**king Princess Di ended up in there somewhere
                              BBC UK Poll:
                              1. Churchill
                              2. Brunel
                              3. Diana
                              4. Darwin
                              5. Shakespeare
                              6. Newton
                              7. Lennon
                              8. Elizabeth I
                              9. Nelson
                              10. Cromwell

                              BBC World poll:
                              1. Sir Isaac Newton
                              2. Sir Winston Churchill
                              3. Diana, Princess of Wales
                              4. William Shakespeare
                              5. Charles Darwin


                              That list isn't too bad really. I think I'd take out the royals and stick in Wellington or Chaucer, or Turing, or Drake or Raleigh or something. And it's majorly lacking in Scots: Burns, Stevenson, Fleming, Napier.
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                              • #45
                                Lenin!
                                Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
                                Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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