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  • In fact he left America in 1787 (anfter spening 13 years there) and then spent the rest of his days in Britain, France and a Luxembourg jail.

    He wrote 'The Rights Of Man' in Britain and 'The Age of Reason' (Which every Christian should read) partly in Luxembourg and partly in Britain.

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    • Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
      Does that mean you're going to put Frenchmen in your 'Best Americans' list?
      Lafayette wasn't fighting France in coming over, he was acting in France's interest.

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      • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
        Wasn't Einstein actually Swiss?
        He was working in the Swiss Patent office when he published the special theory of relativity, but he was born, and for the most part educated, in Germany. IIRC he went back to Germany for an academic appointment after the Swiss years, and then left in the '30s (for obvious reasons) and came to the US, where he joined the Institute for Advance Studies in Princeton.
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


          The stuff they feed us as American "literature" is stuff like Thoreau, Emerson, Poe, Hawthorn... all of whom are horrible writers who produced absolutely nothing of any quality.
          Havent read Emerson or Hawthorn for a long time, and was never wild about Thoreau as a WRITER, but the other days I heard Garrison Keilor recite The Raven, and believe me it was good.

          But my favorite poet from that era is Whitman, and hes, like , teh w00T. Or whatever. And Melville is brilliant.
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • Originally posted by Agathon
            Plato, Aristotle and Homer are the core of the western literary, political and scientific tradition. No one else even compares.
            I'd suggest in terms of influence, a certain Jesus of Nazareth might compare. Maybe even Abraham, depending on how reliable the Biblical interpretations are of him as the father of Judaism. And there's probably comparative figures from the core of eastern tradition. Confucious?

            And I'd still include Da Vinci. Even though he was working from a context of classical thought, the sheer breadth of his acheivment is unparalleled.
            Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
            "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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            • Originally posted by BlackCat
              Famous Danes :

              Niels Bohr Atomic theory
              H.C. Andersen Don't have to explain
              Ole Rømer Light speed
              H.C. Ørsted Electromagnetism
              Søren Kierkegaard Philosphy
              Tycho Brahe Astronomy
              Vitus Bering Explorer (Bering strait etc)
              The Maersk family Ever seen a blue flag with a white star ?
              Bjørn Lomborg Had the gut to stand up against PC


              And not to forget :

              Lars Ulrich Drummer in Metallica
              Anja Andersen Godess of handball
              I approve of your list.

              Other famous Danes are Karen Blixen aka Isak Dinesen, Lars von Trier, Viggo Mortensen (sort of), football kicker Morten Andersen, the impressionist painters of Skagen (The Skaw) and a couple of porn stars. Oh, and composer Carl Nielsen.

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              • Morten Andersen? Never heard of him.

                Michael Laudrup
                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                • Americans (in no real order):

                  Thomas Jefferson - founder, diplomat, President
                  George Washington - founder, General, President
                  Abraham Lincoln - President during Civil War
                  Mark Twain - Writer
                  Theodore Roosevelt - President
                  Thomas Edison - Inventor
                  Edgar Allen Poe - Writer
                  Robbert Goddard - Rocket scientist
                  Dwight Eisenhower - General, President
                  Martin Luther King, Jr. - Reverend, Civil Rights
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • Additions to the lists given by BlackCat and Monk:

                    Uffe Ellemann-Jensen
                    Kaj Munk
                    N.F.S. Grundtvig
                    Victor Borge
                    Piet Hein
                    Carl Th. Dreyer
                    Mogens Wieth
                    Ludvig Holberg

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                    • Originally posted by Winston

                      Ludvig Holberg
                      pffffffffffffft

                      that's like saying Einstein was American.
                      CSPA

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                      • Tommy Douglas is first in the Greatest Canadian standings so far.

                        Sadly, only the oldest demographic(65+) have him first, so his lead might be small.

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                        • Originally posted by Winston
                          Additions to the lists given by BlackCat and Monk:

                          Uffe Ellemann-Jensen
                          Kaj Munk
                          N.F.S. Grundtvig
                          Victor Borge
                          Piet Hein
                          Carl Th. Dreyer
                          Mogens Wieth
                          Ludvig Holberg
                          No King Cnut?

                          "Merie sungen ðe muneches binnen Ely,
                          Ða Cnut Ching reu ðer by;
                          Roweð, Cnihtes, noer ðe land,
                          And here we þes muneches sæng. "


                          (Merrily sang the monks of Ely when Cnut King rowed by. Row, boatmen, near the land, and hear we these monks sing.)

                          Carl Dreyer- fantastic film director.

                          More great Danes:

                          Diderik Buxtehude the composer, Asger Jorn (member of the Cobra art group) and of course Saxo Grammaticus (who provided the source material for Shakespeare's 'Hamlet, Prince of Denmark').


                          Danes:


                          Strange the way the Danes have a Piet Hein too- is he related to the Dutch hero by any chance?
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • Gangerolf, Remember, you were not in a position to claim anything back then, least of all Ludvig Holberg.

                            molly bloom, when displaying interest and knowledge about basically pathetic nations such as ours

                            I actually thought of including both Asger Jorn and Saxo, but decided that they probably wouldn't be very well known abroad, in this corner of the web. Of course that is probably true of some of the ones i did list as well.. Arne Jacobsen, architect and designer, could have been in there also. Lots of architects really.

                            Many kings from days long gone could easily be argued as fitting the label of greatness. And I would personally include our present monarch in any list of all time great personalities. But it would probably take a lot of explaining to get the point across for people unfamiliar with Danish royalty.

                            I know of no connection to the Dutch sea hero Piet Hein. But it is rather strange that they have exactly the same name. This was also raised btw. back when we had all the national threads with polls as to how many people had heard of famous people from various countries. I don't think we found out anything though.

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                            • Actually, I just Googled it, and Wikipedia has it that Piet Hein of Denmark was indeed a direct descendant of 16th century Piet Hein of The Netherlands.

                              Cool, learn something new every day.

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                              • Originally posted by Winston
                                Gangerolf, Remember, you were not in a position to claim anything back then, least of all Ludvig Holberg.
                                nonsense


                                The Danish Piet Hein is the direct descendant of the Dutch Piet Hein, btw

                                edit: Yes wikipedia is good. Maybe you should read up on Holberg there too
                                Last edited by Gangerolf; November 19, 2004, 14:12.
                                CSPA

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