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    0 October 2004 – The chances of having an obedient robot do unwelcome or dangerous jobs have increased tremendously, with orders for industrial robots rising to a record 18 per cent in the first half of this year, a new report co-sponsored by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (ECE) says.

    In the home, by the end of 2003, about 610,000 autonomous vacuum cleaners and lawn-mowers were in operation, the report says. Between 2004 and 2007, more than 4 million new units could be added, it adds.

    The survey, called World Robotics 2004 and produced by the ECE and the International Federation of Robotics (IFR), says the prices of the robots in proportion to human labour costs has fallen from 100 in 1990 to 15 for "radically improved robots" in Germany and to 12 of similarly high quality in North America.

    The report was produced for a conference at the UN complex in Geneva today called "A Robot in Every Home?" accompanied by a robot exhibition on the lawn there.

    "Falling or stable robot prices, increasing labour costs and continuously improved technology are major driving forces which speak for continued massive robot investment in industry," says Jan Karlsson, who is responsible for the annual survey.

    Right now Japan uses about 320 robots of all sorts per 10,000 employees, while Germany uses 148 industrial robots per 10,000 robots, Italy 116, Sweden 99 and between 50 and 80 each in the United States, Finland, France, Spain, Austria, Denmark and Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg.

    In the car industry, there is one robot per 10 workers in Japan, Italy and Germany, it says.

    Among the service robots, "medical robots, underwater robots, surveillance robots, demolition robots and many other types of robots for carrying out a multitude of tasks are doing very well," the report says.

    In the long run, service robots will be everyday tools for mankind, the ECE and IFR say. "They will not only clean our floors, mow our lawns and guard our homes but they will also assist old and handicapped people with sophisticated interactive equipment, carry out surgery, inspect pipes and sites that are hazardous to people, fight fire and bombs and be used in many other applications."
    Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
    -Richard Dawkins

  • #2
    so then what do people do for work if there are no service industry jobs?

    COMMUNISM!
    "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
    'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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    • #3
      It's OK

      This is meant to happen, it will suck, it will be rocky, but in the end, robots will do everything, and we will have the choice to do what we want.
      be free

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      • #4
        Well it is nice that we can get robots to do the crap jobs so we don't have to do them, freeing up talent and human resources. Will this be what happened under current social organisation? No, it will be used to squeeze further concessions out of the worker, as they can be 'replaced by a robot'...
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #5
          There will be no purpose for stupid people anymore: they will be terminated to prevent waste of precious resources and food.
          "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
          "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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          • #6
            I saw/read (I forget which) a sci-fi story where robots did all of the work. The humans couldn't figure out how to fairly distribute all of the goods produced by the robots, so they all started doing useless labor (like double-checking calculations performed by the robots), and the humans who did the most useless labor got the most stuff.

            However, I also saw/read another sci-fi story where robots did all of the work, so humans sat around on their asses all day getting drunk and watching TV.
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            • #7
              Anyone read "the machine stops"?
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #8
                They took our jobs!!!

                /SouthPark

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                • #9
                  There will be no purpose for stupid people anymore: they will be terminated to prevent waste of precious resources and food.
                  OMG I hope you are still alive!!!







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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Trajanus
                    There will be no purpose for stupid people anymore: they will be terminated to prevent waste of precious resources and food.
                    Corrected typos.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by loinburger
                      I saw/read (I forget which) a sci-fi story where robots did all of the work. The humans couldn't figure out how to fairly distribute all of the goods produced by the robots, so they all started doing useless labor (like double-checking calculations performed by the robots), and the humans who did the most useless labor got the most stuff.

                      However, I also saw/read another sci-fi story where robots did all of the work, so humans sat around on their asses all day getting drunk and watching TV.
                      Nah, won't happen people will always think up of more crap that they want. If robots become that advanced the demand for hand-crafted goods will probably sky-rocket.
                      Stop Quoting Ben

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                      • #12
                        [jamaican accent]
                        Yeah man, me is lying on these sunny beaches while them robots do all the work, man !!!
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                        • #13
                          It's seriously easy-going

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                          • #14
                            It's far more likely that if we can all be replaced with robot labor, most of us will be thrown to the wolves.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                              Well it is nice that we can get robots to do the crap jobs so we don't have to do them, freeing up talent and human resources. Will this be what happened under current social organisation? No, it will be used to squeeze further concessions out of the worker, as they can be 'replaced by a robot'...
                              Why bother getting concessions from workers if you can replace them by a robot for cheaper?

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