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  • In Defence of Japanese Culture

    Okay, hope I chose the right forum for this. I figure Poly to be the most polyglot forum I visit

    The dope is this: I have a really annoying acquaintance who I've been seeing too much of recently. The problem is that he's a mental sinophille and a miserable nippophobe. At every damn opportunity, he curses Japan. Even when we're talking about something else entirely.
    eg:

    Me: Did you see the new cafe in town?
    Him: I don't go to cafes in case they have sushi on their menues. I fooking hate the Japanese. When I was in Beijing all the Japanese bars were empty because everybody hates them. They stole their food from China.... (and so on)
    Me: You drive a Mitsubishi, you moron.

    To be fair, he's mental. But it's really getting on my nerves. His line of argument is basically this: the Japanese don't have a culture of their own. They stole their warrior ethics, food and art from ancient Chinese Dynasties. On and on he goes. While my only (weak) line of defense is that Japan is more importantly culturally (now) in the West.

    So, he's mental... and wrong I assume. But what can I do to counter his arguments? Apart from the obvious by telling him to shut up!

    I need concrete examples and refutations of why he's talking a load of Nippo-phobic bollocks. Can any of you wierd and wonderful guys help me?
    Res ipsa loquitur

  • #2
    You gotta love anime tentacle rape porn.
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    • #3
      I really liked Japan when I was there though I've never been to China. I have been to Korea and Thailand and I'd have to say I liked Japan a bit more then either of those countries. Japan is just so clean and orderly compared to the rest of Asia I've been to plus I love the way Japanese women dress. They get dolled up even when they're just going to the corner store.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by pchang
        You gotta love anime tentacle rape porn.
        The sad thing is I've actually seen this.
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        • #5
          I'm also a fan of Japan.

          I'd say that Japan has more culture and their own culture than most of us in here.
          In da butt.
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          • #6
            Japanese cultural products own Asia. What is your friend smoking?
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #7
              I'm adequately impressed with Japanese culture. In some cases, I find it to be cooler than the culture of Australia, or even America.

              Sure there are some aspects of their culture that are a bit off, but every culture has a dark side.
              "Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
              "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
              "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." -- Thomas Jefferson

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              • #8
                Japanese don't spit much
                Stop Quoting Ben

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                • #9
                  Its not entirely incorrect to say that Japan's roots are deep into China. However, those initial migrations occurred over 500 years ago. That is more than enough time to develop a unique culture.

                  If Japan doesn't have a unique culture either does any country in North, Central, or South America. Scratch off a long list of countries founded recently (i.e. Israel, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, etc.)
                  Haven't been here for ages....

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                  • #10
                    Does the guy think the US has culture? They haven't been along that long, and most of their culture is derived from emigrants cultures.
                    I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                    • #11
                      Knevil's friend is smoking crack.

                      EK: You could point out how the Japanese use Kanji and the Chinese don't plus you can talk about the superiority of Japanese Katanas over Chinese period weapons. Then you can talk about how Japan was a modern industrialized society with full health care, civil rights, and democracy when the Chinese communists were still imprisioning people for "thinking bad thoughts" and starving tens of millions of people to death. That might get him thinking.
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                      • #12
                        Your friends hatred may be rooted rather deeply, perhaps even from his childhood. Sometimes this kinds of hatred would not be easily changed by logically arguments.

                        I guess you could try telling him that although Chinese and Japanese cultures have the same root they have developed into two different distinctive cultures. And that is a good thing instead of a fact that warrants hatred.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LordAzreal
                          I'm adequately impressed with Japanese culture. In some cases, I find it to be cooler than the culture of Australia, or even America.
                          Now if that isn't 'damning with faint praise', I don't know what is!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by reds4ever


                            Now if that isn't 'damning with faint praise', I don't know what is!!
                            Really? How is it that I'm 'damning with faint praise'?
                            "Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
                            "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
                            "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                            • #15
                              Remind him he's in Britain, another country that doesn't have it's own culture.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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