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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ming
    Hell, Moore wants to run it again right before the election on PAY TV...
    He wants to run a produced and distributed movie on pay-per-view around the time that it comes out for purchase and rental? THE CAD!
    "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
    ^ The Poly equivalent of:
    "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Guynemer
      Legally and morally different than a pay-per-view cable station or a theatrical showing of a movie.
      Morally?
      Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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      • #18
        Um, yeah, morally. A 'network' should not, morally, show blatently political movies/documentaries on the air. The public airways should not be for political propoganda. The only way it may be justified if equal time is given for the other side.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          Um, yeah, morally. A 'network' should not, morally, show blatently political movies/documentaries on the air. The public airways should not be for political propoganda. The only way it may be justified if equal time is given for the other side.
          Please spare me morality. Morality is easily disposed with by both sides but I'm sure the dems are as pure as the driven snow. All of this mock outrage is a bit much from a group of people that surely have followed politics for more than the past year.
          Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            Um, yeah, morally. A 'network' should not, morally, show blatently political movies/documentaries on the air. The public airways should not be for political propoganda. The only way it may be justified if equal time is given for the other side.

            I agree.

            Much as I decry media bias in favor of Kerry this IMO has a stench about it.
            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Guynemer
              Pay-per-view cable TV is legally different from broadcast TV.
              Not for much longer. Because of the near ubiquity of it on American homes, Congress is considering expanding the "morality" rules to cover cable networks. Interestingly, according to a Supreem Court ruling in the late '70s, the current rules on morality for regular network tv may no longer be valid, as SCOTUS said the only reason the Feds could regulate the networks was because airwaves were a scarce network. Problem is, with digital broadcasting, that's no longer true.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #22
                Republicans got a lot of milage out of the lies told by "the swift boat veterens for truth". By the time journalists figured out the SBVfT were full of **** and funded by the Republican party they had almost knocked Kerry out of the race. It seems the Republicans have learned... It's ok to lie and make propaganda pieces but do it right before people vote so that when they are caught it is to late.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #23
                  Please spare me morality. Morality is easily disposed with by both sides but I'm sure the dems are as pure as the driven snow.




                  That has what to do with the point that the networks should, morally, not show political propaganda on the public airwaves? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Please spare me morality. Morality is easily disposed with by both sides but I'm sure the dems are as pure as the driven snow.




                    That has what to do with the point that the networks should, morally, not show political propaganda on the public airwaves? Oh yeah, it doesn't.


                    now now young man don't you roll your eyes at me

                    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      Please spare me morality. Morality is easily disposed with by both sides but I'm sure the dems are as pure as the driven snow.




                      That has what to do with the point that the networks should, morally, not show political propaganda on the public airwaves? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
                      Since when does a topic of a thread mean anything here.
                      Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                      • #26
                        Some of you are missing Guynemer's point.

                        Broadcast airwaves are OWNED by the public. They are licenced to companies so those companies have the priviledge of airing shows on the public's airwaves. As such there is an inherent requirement for broadcast companies to pay attention to the public good.

                        Running a blatantly biased political program and trying to pass it off as "news" so you can avoid the equal time laws is not in the public's interest. I am pretty confident this will get sorted out though.

                        The above is also how it is different from a movie; It's a biased political statement on one of the candidates only a couple weeks before the election.

                        -Drachasor
                        "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                        • #27
                          Hell, not even FOX would touch it!
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Drachasor
                            Running a blatantly biased political program and trying to pass it off as "news" so you can avoid the equal time laws is not in the public's interest.
                            That's irrelevent. The "public interest" stuff is barely bothered with these days, although some public interest groups have started trying to get companies licenses revoked on the argment the various stations aren't serving the PI. Haven't heard whether they've been successful, but with Powell as Fed chief, I doubt it.

                            The problem for Sinclair is that the movie can be effectively considered a political donation, which will greatly exceed the amount maximum allowed. I'm sure this is the tack the DNC will take in order to stop Sinclair.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Drachasor
                              Some of you are missing Guynemer's point.
                              The point is that after nearly two years some people no longer care to be outraged.
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ming
                                That's up to the lawyers... not my field of expertise...

                                One could argue it doesn't... (I wouldn't )
                                If the Congress can pass laws regulating campaign contributions, when and where ads can be placed, who can place those ads, and a whole lot else then why shouldn't this type of political ad also fall under the same rules?
                                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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