AOL Declared War On SuperCitizen

[Pekka]

Well I'll try the AOL first. Maybe the higher ups, after hearing this will recognize the situation impossible for the customer and do the right thing.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Implying acceptance? That's criminal thinking. So if I start blackmailign someone, and they willingly pay me, it's not a crime? Damn.. I must try that one out.

Contract law is different from criminal law. In a contract if you continue to pay you are saying you still want it. So tell your mom to STOP PAYING!

[Pekka]

That's weird. THe business refuses to close down their service, a service the customer can't even use, and they keep sending bills even though they've been contacted several times. And now, if the customer pays, it's his fault and the business has absolutely 0 responsibility over this policy? Wow. In here that won't fly. I wonder why it does in America. That's criminal, pure and simple.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why is that criminal? You were an idiot for paying for something that you didn't think you owed! You should have stopped paying for it if you didn't want it. It's seems utterly silly to continue paying. It just invites the corporation to claim that by your actions you indicated you wanted it.

[Pekka]

Right. The customer was an idiot, thus it justifies the action of the business to refuse simple thing as closing the service. Right. Invites the corporation to claim... don't you mean lie? Now why is that OK? Ok that corporation lies?

I really dont' get your point.

[Kuciwalker]

I think the terrorists should attack AOL.

[Pekka]

You also realize that not all people are in the position to start scrambling. My mom for example makes crap money and has no savings at all. She can't afford any mistakes. AOL has said to her several times now, that THEY WILL NOT stop the service, period. Now, they send her bills, if she defies them and 'ok I won't pay', wait for couple of months, then what if the fockers come in and there's 99457089475% extra fee and interest now to the bill, and she hears 'well in here America this is totally legal'. She'd be totally ****ed. Now, is she willing to take that risk? No. She can't afford to **** up her credit. No, she can't take the services of a lawyer and find out this question either. She barely makes it every month with the costs of living. She doesn't want to take any risks, and you're telling me she's a ****ing idiot?

[Barinthus]

I didn't read everything on this thread so just letting you know.

From what I understood, your mom has AOL for work-related purposes. Her superiors should have been paying her monthly fees, not her.

She also can claim those payments as her work expenses for tax purposes.

If she has the full access to her account, she should be able to change billing information in there. Personally my opinion is that your and her energy is better used toward getting her superiors reimbursing her for those payments.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So wait, since your mom doesn't have money for a lawyer and can't do anything, she pays the bill. So how are you going to sue AOL to stop doing this?

A company can always deny you called in and asked to cancel. There is no proof you did. If you want proof, send a letter, saying so. Then refuse to pay. And then call the Better Business Bureau or something. Btw, did you read your contract that you signed?

If you can't do something like that, then fine, pay money to AOL for every month for the rest of your life.

[Sprayber]

My aunt had to start the process of sueing AOL because they kept double billing her and then refused to stop service when she wanted to get another service. She had to close the checking account and start another because they wouldn't fix the problem.

[Barinthus]

Imran is right. Your mother can write a letter explaining the situation in full and perhaps cc it to her superiors at work. Get that letter notarized so that way they cannot deny the fact that she sent them a letter.

[Pekka]

Barinthus, I know her superiors should have paid for it. They should have also paid 100% more salary, according to the law, and they should also have paid for the NECESSARY fix up of the house. She also paid for that. For the materials. THe house was coming down because it was such crappy built. My dad actually fixed it up, he's pro. He was disgusted by the work someone had done building the house. Had to tear up half the place. And pay for it. Pay also for the internet, that doesn't even work now. They also refuse to get her another laptop, and this laptop is from the .. I don't even know how old. Nothing works in it, CD-ROM is busted up, floppy drive is busted, some keys are busted, and they won't even pay for it to be fixed, though it needs to be thrown to the wall and get a new one. And loads of other stuff as well, the car broke down, a crappy one let me tell you that much, and they said 'the car and the house is part of the salary', which she found out wasn't, well it was, but the salary still should have been 100% better with those two things included, now she got another car AND fixed up the house for her own cost, because the alternative was life thtreatning house and life threatning car and no one was going to do anythinfg about it. I hate those mother****ers over there, the few people that are ripping her off. Next time I should pay them a visit the day I leave. I figure the cops won't get me if I drive straight to the airport and leave.

It's BS that's what it is, all of it is just huge load of crap and I'm honestly pretty angry about all this.

[Pekka]

" Personally my opinion is that your and her energy is better used toward getting her superiors reimbursing her for those payments."

Those church managing mother****ers are not cooperating. I'm going to crush them.

[Pekka]

"So wait, since your mom doesn't have money for a lawyer and can't do anything, she pays the bill. So how are you going to sue AOL to stop doing this?"

Because no one is suing anyone.

[Pekka]

"If you can't do something like that, then fine, pay money to AOL for every month for the rest of your life."

And thus you justify corporate crime.