Who the Hell Gives a Cheney About John Kerry in Vietnam: Unfit For Command, Part 5

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker




So now people aren't allowed to freely try and petition Congress in a way that other people could find out?

Given that it was a peace negotiation and that it represented national security interests and that such information was and should have been confidential, then yes it should have been a classified breifing.

Or is your point that you are opposed to classification of any information?

[Kuciwalker]

Apart from direct military secrets, yes.

[Kuciwalker]

Any policy that relies on deceiving the populace is flawed.

[chequita guevara]

Your accussation that Kerry committed a crime fails on the simple fact that he was not carrying out diplomacy.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I see no mention of diplomacy, diplomat, or diplomatic mission in the statute.

[Drake Tungsten]

bump

I didn't post the wonderful proof of Kerry's skill as a diplomat so that this thread could languish on page 3...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I see no mention of diplomacy, diplomat, or diplomatic mission in the statute.

That would be the trying to influence part.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Nope, you have tried to limit the statute to only diplomatic activities when activities around intelligence sharing etc. can very equally apply. Hence the reason diplomacy, diplomatic actions and or diplomat are absent.

[chequita guevara]

So why didn't Nixon have him prosecuted then?

[Drake Tungsten]

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So why didn't Nixon have him prosecuted then?

Kerry and other protestors were pretty much innoculated to prosecution due to Kent State and other political pressures. Why did Nixon try so baltently hard to win over the youth through his talks with youth at the Lincoln Memorial his spot appearance on Laugh in?

No way Nixon was going to give the appearance of being a police statists when that was exactly what his portrayal already was. No way he was going to feed the beast in a public way. Now if he could have used underhanded covert tricks I'm sure he would have.

[Ramo]

That's a nice poster, Drake. I didn't realize that the world is the same thing as a thug that's in power only because the US put him there, and remains in power (in part of the country, anyways) only because 150,000 coalition soldiers are occupying his country. Good thing there are GOP talking points to correct my traitorous thoughts.

[Drake Tungsten]

A challenge to those who claim that the SwiftVets' allegations have been "debunked" or are "unsubstantiated"...

[Drake Tungsten]

a thug that's in power only because the US put him there

When did Lakhdar Brahimi become "the US"?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Kerry and other protestors were pretty much innoculated to prosecution due to Kent State and other political pressures.

BS. I know people who were personally targetted by the FBI's COINTELPRO. People were murdered, had their marriages and jobs ruined, were driven to suicide, railroaded. The antiwar movement was far from immune.

If Kerry had done something illegal, he'd have gone to prison, especially considering that Nixon was desperately trying to get something on Kerry.

Why did Nixon try so baltently hard to win over the youth through his talks with youth at the Lincoln Memorial his spot appearance on Laugh in?

He had a psychological need to be loved.

No way Nixon was going to give the appearance of being a police statists when that was exactly what his portrayal already was.

Uhm, this is Nixon we're talking about. Under him, the police state reached its height.