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  • PETA is filled with idiots

    Watched Penn and Teller's:Bullshit last night about PETA.

    They claim that animals shouldn't be caged, killed, eaten, tested on or owned as pets.

    They equate this with the slavery of the black man.

    Example from PETA Website:

    “What's wrong with factory farms or fur farms Aren't animals worse off in the wild, where they die of starvation, disease, or predation? At least the animals on factory farms and fur farms are fed and protected.”
    A similar argument was used to support the claim that black people were better off as slaves on plantations than as free men and women. The same could also be said of people in prison, yet prison is considered to be one of society’s harshest punishments. Animals on factory farms suffer so much that it is inconceivable that they could be worse off in the wild. The wild isn’t “wild” to the animals who live there—it’s their home. There, they have their freedom and can engage in their natural activities. The fact that they might suffer in the wild is no reason to ensure that they suffer in captivity.


    So basically, they are saying if the black man or woman has rights why don't animals?
    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

  • #2
    No, because they attack it on two fronts: the first is that you wouldn't say slavery is okay if it meant that the slaves had a better quality of life as a result, and the second is that even if you reject that comparison, it doesn't matter because the quality of life of animals on factory farms is far worse than in the wild.

    You have failed to make PETA look like fools: few people manage this.

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    • #3
      some of those peta nuts have pets.

      oh, i mean, "animal companions".
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      • #4
        I adopted a lab from a rescue organization after his original owner gave him up.

        I am an evil slaveowner. Shame on me.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gibsie
          No, because they attack it on two fronts: the first is that you wouldn't say slavery is okay if it meant that the slaves had a better quality of life as a result, and the second is that even if you reject that comparison, it doesn't matter because the quality of life of animals on factory farms is far worse than in the wild.

          You have failed to make PETA look like fools: few people manage this.
          Okay, how about the fact that they protest animal shelters for killing animals.

          But, they themselves put animals to sleep.

          In 1995 they spent almost 7000 dollars for a freezer. ~16X10.

          Which has 2 uses, meat storage or cadaver storage.

          In that year they put to sleep 1200 animals.

          ACK!
          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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          • #6
            It's a thorny philosophical point. I am not really prepared to take sides on this. Hmm.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gibsie
              No, because they attack it on two fronts: the first is that you wouldn't say slavery is okay if it meant that the slaves had a better quality of life as a result, and the second is that even if you reject that comparison, it doesn't matter because the quality of life of animals on factory farms is far worse than in the wild.

              You have failed to make PETA look like fools: few people manage this.
              Free all those animals, give them the same rights as humans.

              When they start killing each other (which animals do), we then arrest them since they have committed murder) and, guess what, put them in cages, or execute them.

              That will work.

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              • #8
                Ok so when cats, dogs and cows die because we dont' eat them or own them as pets.. what do we do? Make a place for them to live and bring them food?
                In da butt.
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                • #9
                  The vice president of PETA is a diabetic that wants animal testing to stop.

                  But, she sure is thankful that animal testing saved her life since Insulin is a direct result of animal testing.

                  ACK!
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gibsie
                    No, because they attack it on two fronts: the first is that you wouldn't say slavery is okay if it meant that the slaves had a better quality of life as a result, and the second is that even if you reject that comparison, it doesn't matter because the quality of life of animals on factory farms is far worse than in the wild.

                    You have failed to make PETA look like fools: few people manage this.
                    So why make an argument that doesn't matter?

                    I'm looking for a term for this..........

                    ACK!
                    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                    • #11
                      Okay, you're doing better now.

                      Originally posted by Pekka
                      Ok so when cats, dogs and cows die because we dont' eat them or own them as pets.. what do we do? Make a place for them to live and bring them food?
                      That would just be the natual result of natural selection, so they wouldn't really mind. Hundreds of millions of animals already starve to death every year, PETA would probably treat them the same as they treat the current casualties.

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                      • #12
                        Jesus Christ man, you don't need to respond to my first post three separate times! :whoa:

                        They make the redundant initial argument in the part you quote to appealto people who think that if animals were better off in farms than in the wild (And some animals certainly are) it's still wrong to them.

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                        • #13
                          By euthanizing them?

                          ACK!
                          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gibsie
                            Jesus Christ man, you don't need to respond to my first post three separate times! :whoa:

                            They make the redundant initial argument in the part you quote to appealto people who think that if animals were better off in farms than in the wild (And some animals certainly are) it's still wrong to them.
                            Wrong to who? PETA? Then they shouldn't own animals.

                            ACK!
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                            • #15
                              Re: PETA is filled with idiots

                              PETA is filled with idiots
                              And my colon is filled with ****. What else is new?
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