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It depends on who's getting compensated. The richer you are, the more likely compensation is going to be well above fair market value. The further you decend the economic ladder, the more likely you are to get shafted when the government seizes your property.
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Agreed which is why I am passionate around property rights and emminant domain abuse issues."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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I don't think anyone gets shafted. We were renting in an area that is going to be turned into industrial zone and they were going to give us 6 months rent for forcing us to move.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Did they throw in some magic beans for the cow as well?
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That's probably less to do with you and more to do with the project couldn't be started much before then anyway. The less important you are, the less likely you are to receive a fair value for your property if the government seizes it.Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't think anyone gets shafted. We were renting in an area that is going to be turned into industrial zone and they were going to give us 6 months rent for forcing us to move.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I guess there are probably cases where the govt has used eminent domain unfairly or in a way that didn't benefit society, but in general we all benefit greatly by the govt being able to use this tool. Even being forced to move is better than living in a society where the govt can't make improvements because someone's property is in the way.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Well poor people don't usually own property. If they do it's a mobile home.
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So that makes their meager possessions all the more fair game for theft?
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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Oh, I forgot. You are a libertarian. You don't support eminent domain at all do you?Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
So that makes their meager possessions all the more fair game for theft?
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Everytime a Palestinian home is bulldozed, the Israeli's cheer... and yet the US continues to support the practise.The question is: Does the Constitution empower governments to seize a person's most precious property — a home, a business — and give it to more wealthy interests so that the government can reap, in taxes, ancillary benefits of that wealth?
Constitutional law at home, the law of the jungle for all others... that seems the path of the USA.Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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Not a libertarian perse but I d o find many of their stances aligned with my views. As a matter of practicality I do understand the need for emminent domain but find it's current interpretation to be far from its orignal intent.Originally posted by Kidicious
Oh, I forgot. You are a libertarian. You don't support eminent domain at all do you?"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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If you understand the need for eminent domain then why do you call it theft? Is there a line that you cross or what?Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Not a libertarian perse but I d o find many of their stances aligned with my views. As a matter of practicality I do understand the need for emminent domain but find it's current interpretation to be far from its orignal intent.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Lobyist and private interest has skewed the view of what "beneficial for the public" actually is.Comment
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Obviously hence my question as to what constitutes abuse. IMO, government seized land via emminent domain should only be done for purposes of communal good and needs to remain the property of the people (i.e. governement property such as roads, vias, parks, , etc.). To do otherwise as was teh case in the OP and other posts I have made in similar instance represents theft for the purpose of increasing tax base.Originally posted by Kidicious
If you understand the need for eminent domain then why do you call it theft? Is there a line that you cross or what?
Using the increased tax base as a common good rationale allows for all types of abuse wherein its better to rip off all the poor and put their property in the hands of the wealthy as they are likely to pay higher taxes via our progressive tax sytem. (assuming equal profit generation from the property) Are you sure you want to advocate that?"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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Ah, so you say you think it rips off the poor. I find that so incredible I can't really respond.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Obviously hence my question as to what constitutes abuse. IMO, government seized land via emminent domain should only be done for purposes of communal good and needs to remain the property of the people (i.e. governement property such as roads, vias, parks, , etc.). To do otherwise as was teh case in the OP and other posts I have made in similar instance represents theft for the purpose of increasing tax base.
Using the increased tax base as a common good rationale allows for all types of abuse wherein its better to rip off all the poor and put their property in the hands of the wealthy as they are likely to pay higher taxes via our progressive tax sytem. (assuming equal profit generation from the property) Are you sure you want to advocate that?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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