"Maths, in university, is useless bull..."

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asher
You can't use just high-school math in computer science, you know.

Depends on what levels you go to in high school

[Pekka]

also depends on what level computer science you do

cold blooded...

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asher
The only good thing about the philosophy courses I've taken was the humour value of the philosophy majors struggling with boolean logic.

And the kid (complete with emo glasses) who tried to argue against De Morgan's law.

I felt like I was in elementary school, when someone writes on the board...
"Contradiction: P and NOT P is a contradiction"

Hell, that's not even philosophy. You should learn that stuff in the first week of a geometry course.

[Kuciwalker]

You don't need to be instructed in philosophy to be a "philosopher". You don't have to have a job as a "philosopher" to actually be one. Anyone with a shred of intelligence can do philosophy with no training. The only useful things are history of philosophy courses, and even those you can self-teach just by reading books.

[Pekka]

You can self teach anything. I bombed your argument. No, wait.. what was your argument?

[Kuciwalker]

You can self teach anything.

But it's much simpler when being taught pretty much amounts to just reading books. In that case, there's no point to having an instructor.

[Pekka]

look son, I need to go to the bed and sleep some, so, just in case you try to be cool cat when I can't reply and bomb your arguments and utterly destroy your weak attempts, you're 16. That's right I said it you're 16 and your sig is way too long to prove otherwise. So, that means you're always wrong if you're up against adults.

Oh, and in the case of someone older than me trying to destroy this argument? Well, it doesn't work like that. The magical age is 20. 19 is kind of.. someting ish, but you have to be 20 or more, and there's no way around it. Sorry buddy. See you in few years .

[Buck Birdseed]

Agathon, you shouldn't be the one to talk - surely according to your platonic essentialist principles there's only one right thing to think anyway? Plato was just like the scientists, he never got the notion of different approaches disclosing different aspects of the world.

(KH, tell me the most complicated maths used regularly in computer science and I'll tell you if I did it in high school. Not that it really matters, apparently my counterglow leg-pull has spilt over into a Really Big Humourless Apolyton Debateâ„¢, which means it's no longer fun. Thanks Asher. )

[Buck Birdseed]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

You can self teach anything.

But it's much simpler when being taught pretty much amounts to just reading books. In that case, there's no point to having an instructor.

I see you haven't tried self-teaching Derrida.

[Kuciwalker]

Right now I'm on Hegel.

[Az]

Plato was just like the scientists, he never got the notion of different approaches disclosing different aspects of the world.

Oh ****, how new age is that?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
Agathon, you shouldn't be the one to talk - surely according to your platonic essentialist principles there's only one right thing to think anyway? Plato was just like the scientists, he never got the notion of different approaches disclosing different aspects of the world.

Don't insult scientists by comparing them to Plato.

[Buck Birdseed]

Originally posted by Azazel

Plato was just like the scientists, he never got the notion of different approaches disclosing different aspects of the world.

Oh ****, how new age is that?

Well, according to Heidegger's critics, very. Now hush and let me troll Aggie in peace.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
(KH, tell me the most complicated maths used regularly in computer science and I'll tell you if I did it in high school.)

KH is into physics, not computer science.

Something used very regularly (indeed, to the point of you-should-know-this-like-arithmetic), is an example by which you clearly didn't understand -- the example that started this very thread.

You also need to be able to do most types of proof in your sleep -- mostly induction and reductio ad absurdum. You need to know how to do most types of calculus rather trivially (integration specifically), advanced set theory, linear algebra (working with matricies: eigenvalues, eigenvectors, computing normals, etc), harmonic series, LOTS of graph theory (reductions, cliques, etc), ... it's ridiculous to go on.

Computer Science is a form of applied mathematics. It's simply absurd to think you can do it with only high school math...

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Asher
Honestly, Aggie, you're a frickin' commie. No communist economy is successful. Even China has a fairly right-wing economy.

You are excluding the middle ground.

Also, the fact that no communist economy is successful proves that a communist economy is not necessarily successful, not that it is automatically unsuccessful.