It's time to show all you assault rifle hating flower weenies the truth!!!!

[Patroklos]

We do have state citizen militias, they are called the national guard.

As soon as the "militia" people realize this we can solve the imaginary recruiting problem.

You should only be able to own an assault weapon if your occupation requires you to be proficient in it, ie law enforcment and the military. Even then you should not have ammunition and if it were up to me you would store such weapons at federal facilities.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
We do have state citizen militias, they are called the national guard.

This is incorrect. The National Guard was organized in opposition to the citizen militias, because in the 1880s, these militias became increasingly socialist and anarchist. Citizen militias were organized by the citizens, not the state.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by GePap


2. If it came to people in the US needing to fight the Army at home, then you can count the military being more brutal here than we are in Iraq right now

Yeah...Joe Q. Soldier just can't wait to shoot mom and dad.

[Patroklos]

National Guard is a direct decedent of Civil War state regiments.

Militias have always been organized by the state, armed by the state to a degree (had powder and ammunition stores for distribution) and called up and commanded by state officials.

They used the national guard for that purpose in the 1880's, not invented them. It just shows a long history of evolution which has transformed the entity into something that is a shadow of its original self, which is a testiment to the obsolesence of the original cast.

[chequita guevara]

How it worked was, individual citizens asked the state for permission to create a unit. Since, by the 1880s, these units had been taken over by radical workers, the states outlawed the old militias and created the National Guards.

[Patroklos]

Or in otherwords reorganized, they were not completely seperate entities.

They kept the ones they liked (or the members they liked) and made them uberpowerful in relation to their preious selves. In the meantime they also made them more professional and better equiped.

However permission to organize from the state is tantimount to being organized by the state.

[GePap]

Originally posted by PLATO


Yeah...Joe Q. Soldier just can't wait to shoot mom and dad.

Simple solution: use guys from a different state. Worked in the Civil War just fine. That, or shoot them from 30 miles away, or 30,000 feet.

Either way, if the US Military actually decided to take orders and fight the populace, having an assault rifle won't do **** for you.

[Gangerolf]

I'm transferring to a local paramiltary unit so I'll be getting my own G3

(Stupid government shut down my old regiment)

[Buck Birdseed]

Self-defense? Sikander, have you actually read the US constitution?

Militias are a feature of that most-neglected aspect of the set of American founding ideologies, Civic Republicanism. More Americans today should read Machiavelli's Discourses... Your "framers" certainly did.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by PLATO
Yeah...Joe Q. Soldier just can't wait to shoot mom and dad.

Jackson State, Kent State, ring any bells?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Jackson State, Kent State, ring any bells?

Point taken. One would hope it would be more in the mold of what happened in Moscow, but you are probably right...sadly.

[laurentius]

[GePap]

Damn Frog

[Gatekeeper]

Hmm. Well, I suppose one thing people can do is simply pray that they won't be the victims of the next mass shooting spree that kills dozens — and results in a renewed push for legislation.

Gatekeeper

[Patroklos]

I could propobly kill more with my 9mm than most would with their rifles, easier to manuver through office cubicles