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I hate liars. CBS really got screwed this time.. they bought into the lies and forgeries of an accomplished liar..
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For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence) -
Sorry about that Che. That now 2 of 3. Whats the third one again?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I'm only a third pwned. Two of three of the stories I posted about are still on the up and up.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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Ooh, that's a good idea...Originally posted by Sikander
If Rove pulled this off I'd pull him from the campaign and have him take over in Iraq.Comment
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Podhoretz
NY Post I wonder how Gephard is doing as VP cadidate extraordinaire
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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why don't you post links Ogie? Scared to reveal the source because it's full of ****?
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Glad to see you still have your sense of humor GePap.
Barnes
1968
Lt. Gov. 1969
Helped Bush in 68 to get into Tex NG
Alzheimers and/or lying sack o' ****e
Too funny
edit - corroborating link for sava.Last edited by Ogie Oglethorpe; September 10, 2004, 16:31."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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links to what?Originally posted by Sava
why don't you post links Ogie? Scared to reveal the source because it's full of ****?
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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the bs articles you post...Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
links to what?
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Which respectable articles are you refering to in specific?"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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Barnes credibility is sh*t. Even his own daughter doesn't believe him.
AMY BARNES: I love my father very much, but he's doing this for purely political reasons. He is a big Kerry fund-raiser and he is writing a book also. And [the Bush story] is what he's leading the book off with. ... He denied this to me in 2000 that he did get Bush out [of Vietnam service]. Now he's saying he did.
CROWLEY: Did he tell you, Amy – and I'm glad I have you on the line with me – did your father tell you that he was prepared to do this on behalf of John Kerry – go after President Bush like this?
BARNES: He told me he was going to do it. In fact, I talked to him a couple of months ago. He told me he was writing the book. He told me that he was going to be talking about this. And he knows that I – we have very diverse political opinions. He knows my opinions and we get into this debate every time I see him. But, you know, he said that he was going to be talking about it.
CROWLEY: Now you're saying, Amy, that he has had two separate stories on President Bush's Guard duty during the Vietnam era?
BARNES: Yes, yes. This came out in 2000 and I asked him then, at the time, if he [helped get Bush into the Guard]. He said: "No, absolutely not. I did not do that." -
CROWLEY: So, I hate to put you in this position, but I will ask you, do you think your father, Ben Barnes who was on "60 Minutes II" with Dan Rather last night – do you believe that he lied on the air to the American people last night about President Bush?
BARNES; Yes, I do. I absolutely do. And I think he's doing he's doing it for purely political, opportunistic reasons – trying to get John Kerry elected and trying to make Bush look like the bad person. ... Like I said, he's going to be trying to promote his book that he's got coming out.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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ouch! kids can be so brutal sometimes
Be nice to your kids
'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.
Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.Comment
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Nah, I'm only half pwned now, and that's only cuz I posted the Barnes story about a week ago.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Sorry about that Che. That now 2 of 3. Whats the third one again?
Still unpwned: ABC: Pentagon admits it has no proof Bush ever served in Alabama.
Boston Globe, Bush failed to sign up for unit in Massachusetts while attending Harvard (he still had two years left).Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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As for Amy, her Dad may have told her something different in 2000, but he could have been lying then, since he's maintained all along he didn't help Bush. So we're still left with either Barnes was lying then or lying now. Considering he was accussed of blackmailing then governor Bush over the information, it may have been in his best interests not to tell his daughter the truth.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Re: Re: 60 minutes and Boston Globe rely on Forgeries? Naah not those reputable media sources
GePap, what do you think. Should this be sig material?Originally posted by GePap
And thanks to Ogie for keeping us updated on the work of his good buddies
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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