OMFG!!! ABC and CBS PWN Bush!!!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

So far the bloggoshere was instrumental in getting Kerry to recant his stories about Xmas in Cambodia and recant his stories around PH1 saying it may indeed have been from accidentally self inflicted wounds.

Don't know but they seem to of late be more on the money than say 'old' media.

Face it Dems can't even shoot straight when it comes to slinging mud.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ned


Since when has a Republican intern had presidential sperm splattered all over her evening dress?

Harding was caught banging his secretary in his office. while Secret Service agents restrained the First Lady (with butcher knife in hand), the secretary left the closet she'd been hiding in.

If you want to expand on the subject, we've got Dole ditching his first wife, Gingrich serving papers on one of his wives while she was in the hospital and he was getting it on the side, and we could go on for a good long time.

[GePap]

at anyone who gets their information from the bloggosphere. Oh, also a and a cause it shows pretty poor judgement.

I cany say, it seems worthwhile for hyperbole and innane concentration on non-issues and idiocy thought.

So, for the bloggosphere as a source of real news, to the blogosphere as a source of rumors and so forth.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
More forensics... enough to create more than a shred of doubt




Just when you think 'old' media might be getting an ounce of credibility.

From an examination of a poor low-res .pdf of what appeared to be a copy of a copy. That and $3.64 will get you a venti Frappucino.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

More than enough reason for Boston Globe and/or 60 minutes to cough up the original for verification.

While the point is valid (and acknowledged as such) that PDF copy of copy issue is real the forensics specialist is now stating at least 90% confident it is forged.

UPDATE: Dr. Bouffard called me again, and after further analysis, he says that he's pretty certain that it's a fake.

Here's why

* He looked through old papers he's written, and noted that he's come up against the inconsistency of the "4" several previous times with forgeries that attempt to duplicate old proportional spaced documents with a computer word processing program.

* Regarding the small "th" after the date, Dr. Bouffard told me that it was possible to order specialty keys that would duplicate the automatic miniaturization completed by word processors after a numerical date, but it was certainly not standard, and wouldn't make a lot of sense in a military setting. "That by itself, while suspicious, is not impossible, but in conjunction with the (font irregularity of the) number four, it is really significant," he said.

* Dr. Bouffard said that signature analysis isn't that relevant because the signature could have easily been copied and pasted onto one of the photocopied forgeries from another document.

* He said that he didn't know who CBS contacted to verify the document's authenticity, but that there is really only one other man that may be more qualified to determine authentic typefaces than himself. I think that the burden of proof may be on CBS to reveal this information.

I asked him to put a percentage on the chances that this was a fake, and he said that was "hard to put a number on it." I then suggested "90%?" Again he said it's "hard to put an exact number, but I'd say it's at least that high, sure. I pretty much agree that that font is Times New Roman."

I hesitate to render verdicts, but based on an initial visual analysis by one of the country's foremost forensic document analysts that specializes in old typefaces, it looks like CBS was duped.

UPDATE: Apologies for the hasty error on Dr. Bouffard's first name - it's Philip.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Ned


This is a typical reaction to mudslinging campaigns. Mudslinging, though, is out of control in this campaign due to the recently enacted "Campaign finance reform" legislation that forces big money into independent organization outside of the nominal control of the candidate. This allows the mudslinging to be of the worst kind, including, it appears, forgeries, while the candidate can stay above it all because he can say that that ad was not placed by me.

interesting, thanks for the heads up

smokescreen anyone? so what is the real issue BOTH parties want to hide from the american people?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
That and $3.64 will get you a venti Frappucino.

If only they had sugar-free frappucinos.

[DanS]

The folks over at Little Green Footballs did an exact overlay using Microsoft Word for the documents. Standard spacing, font size, etc.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12526_Bush_Guard_Documents-_Forged

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12527_Forged_Documents-_Topic_Two

[Drake Tungsten]

I go to bed with all the lefties crowing about this and wake up to discover that the whole thing is a fraud.

to the blogosphere!!! Doing the big media's work for them!

[Q Classic]

to the blogosphere!!! Doing the big media's work for them!

well duh, it's distributed brainpower. rather than having a few brains do research, you have thousands doing it.

[DanS]

WaPo had a front page above-the-fold article on this. Will they have a similar front page above-the-fold retraction?

[chequita guevara]

Well, not only is CBS standing by their story, the White House isn't refuting it, instead trying to explain the memo's away. Also, two of the memos were released by the White House, so at least some of it is true.

[DanS]

Look at the documents, che. Decide for yourself. Unless these are transcriptions of other documents, all are easily identified as frauds. Did your typewriter ever have such neat spacing?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/09/bush.docs/index.html

This is just too gut-busting funny.

[GhengisFarb™]

CBS is definitely on track for their goal of being the National Enquirer of the network news world. I guess their jealous of the Daily Show's fake news market share.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DanS
Unless these are transcriptions of other documents, all are easily identified as frauds.

If all are easily identifiable as frauds, why di the White House release two of the documents themselves? Are they the ones hoaxing CBS? If they are, and they don't get caught, it would be a brialliant ploy to drum up sympathy for the Pres. Damn, Dan, that's brilliant.