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  • #46
    Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
    Gee, Shi, isn't that a little like the Administration responding with "How dare you question this Administration!" every time someone confronts them?

    The difference is, the answers to the questions about Kerry don't really matter.
    The adminstration talks about issues today, not a war that happened thirty years ago like Kerry who can't seem to drop it. It is funny, McCain who was in a POW camp for a few years doesn't talk about the Vietnam war as much as Kerry.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #47
      shi, you know that throwing around jabs is not debating
      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
      'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Giancarlo


        The adminstration talks about issues today, not a war that happened thirty years ago like Kerry who can't seem to drop it. It is funny, McCain who was in a POW camp for a few years doesn't talk about the Vietnam war as much as Kerry.
        McCain talked about it quite a bit when he was running for president. And Bush orchestrated a smear campaign to discredit McCain's heroism, too.
        "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


          McCain talked about it quite a bit when he was running for president. And Bush orchestrated a smear campaign to discredit McCain's heroism, too.
          But he says he doesn't talk about it much anymore. And he certainly did not talk about as much as Kerry did (whose 4 months were probably mostly spent in Saigon).
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #50
            If McCain we're running for president against a Dem who weaseled out of service in Nam, do you think he'd be talking about Nam much? My guess is that he'd never shut up about it, just the same way that Bob Dole's '96 campaign was coated in WWII nostalgia designed to distinguish him from that year's draft-dodging prez.

            That's just politics. But the difference between Clinton and Bush is that Clinton never questioned Dole's service or patriotism, whereas the Bushies have had the audacity to orchestrate smears against at least three men with distiguished war records (Kerry, McCain, and max Cleland). That's right: the difference between Clinton and Bush is that Clinton has some shred of decency left.
            "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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            • #51
              All of that aside, people should just drop it and talk about the issues. I even have problems with the people who wrote that book on Kerry and Kerry himself for making it a political campaign slogan.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Giancarlo


                Wrong again. Liberals are too weak to punch.
                God damn...you need to get a grip on reality.

                [/stating the obvious]
                "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
                ^ The Poly equivalent of:
                "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Giancarlo


                  Wrong again. Liberals are too weak to punch.
                  I thought you were a fascist, but obviously by your own criteria you are a liberal, perhaps even a pinko.
                  He's got the Midas touch.
                  But he touched it too much!
                  Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                  • #54
                    it's funny since it are the republicans who can't seem to shut up about it ...

                    so, what exactely has the current administration done right ?

                    domestic :
                    huge deficit
                    tax cuts for the rich
                    reduced personal freedom
                    still not recovered from the economic collapse caused by a year of warmongering talks (with respect to the stockmarkets : uncertainty kills...)

                    foreign policy
                    alienated all but one traditional allies
                    war in two countries (i never understood why iraq and not afghanistan had to be the example of how an arab country can be converted to a reasonable state of freedom and democracy * wink oil wink *)
                    a bunch of third world countries put on the axis of evil who now have to do everything they can to get nuclear weapons in order to ensure their survival

                    etc ...

                    yeah, they made america and the world a better,safer and more hopeful place...
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by dannubis
                      it's funny since it are the republicans who can't seem to shut up about it ...

                      so, what exactely has the current administration done right ?

                      domestic :
                      huge deficit
                      tax cuts for the rich
                      reduced personal freedom
                      still not recovered from the economic collapse caused by a year of warmongering talks (with respect to the stockmarkets : uncertainty kills...)

                      foreign policy
                      alienated all but one traditional allies
                      war in two countries (i never understood why iraq and not afghanistan had to be the example of how an arab country can be converted to a reasonable state of freedom and democracy * wink oil wink *)
                      a bunch of third world countries put on the axis of evil who now have to do everything they can to get nuclear weapons in order to ensure their survival

                      etc ...

                      yeah, they made america and the world a better,safer and more hopeful place...
                      yak yak yak.. yak yak.. and yak yak yak. Do you have anything other to say other then the same regurgiated falsehoods? Or do you want to restate them again in yet another poorly written post?
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #56
                        you could provide some arguments ...

                        btw, english is only my fourth language, boy
                        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by dannubis
                          you could provide some arguments ...

                          btw, english is only my fourth language, boy
                          Arguments against the same old thing I hear every single day by the Kerry campaign? No thanks. Been there, done that. I just get a reply that is basically restating what was originally said.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #58
                            what have they done right ?

                            1 example please ?
                            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by dannubis
                              what have they done right ?

                              1 example please ?
                              Helped the economy gain tons of jobs, liberated Iraq, gave taxes to the middle and upper classes, jump started the economy as a whole, shall I go on? Liberated Afghanistan.. got Muammoar Qadafi to give up all of his weapons... got Sudan to come to the table and talk over the region of Dafur...
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #60
                                not quite up there...

                                as far as the economy concerns you're still recovering...
                                you 'liberated' iraq, whatever that means for the average iraqi
                                you liberated afghanisthan, backed by the entire international community : so ok, this point i will give you, half a thing done right.
                                in sudan nothing happens, in lybia nothing happens ...

                                you'll have to do better than this, boy
                                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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