Yankees: Objects in Mirror are Closer then they Appear

[Arrian]

Bellhorn is not superior defensively to Cairo. I'd say the other way 'round.

Matsui has better range than Manny. This doesn't show up during your home games b/c left field at Fenway is so shallow. They both have weak arms.

-Arrian

[Lawrence of Arabia]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=7&season=2004&seasonType=2&split=80&sortOrder=true&sortColumn=fieldingPct

bellhorn is in the top 10, cairo isnt. his ZR is 2nd best in the league.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Bellhorn's range at 2B is 4.70, and his Zone Rating (percentage of balls hit into his area converted into outs) is .835. For Cairo, the same numbers are 5.07 and .784; for Wilson, 4.86 and .837. It doesn't seem that the increased range numbers for Cairo and Wilson are a result of more groundballs for the Yankees; the Red Sox have a G/F ratio of 1.27, the Yankees 1.12. (The total number of groundballs for each team is 1651 and 1596, respectively.) Overall, NYY 2B have a range of 4.96 and a ZR of .810; Boston 2B have a range of 4.85 and a ZR of .834.

As for Manny vs. Matsui, Manny's range and ZR are 1.65 and .731. Matsui's are 2.04 and .848. Then again, they have the same defensive value according to Win Shares, despite the fact that Manny has played ~300 fewer innings in left than Matsui. Go figure.

[Arrian]

I stand corrected on Cairo, then. See, I went with my "gut" by just judging them on what I've seen, rather than stats.

Matsui... I think it's blatantly obvious he's better.

-Arrian

[Lawrence of Arabia]

but since cairo hasnt played enough games at 2B, he in an unqualified 2B, so his numbers are off and arnt included in the leaders.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=7&season=2004&seasonType=2&split=80&sortOrder=true&sortColumn=fieldingPct

bellhorn is in the top 10, cairo isnt. his ZR is 2nd best in the league.

Cairo doesn't show up because he hasn't played enough innings to qualify; his FPCT is better than Bellhorn's, granting that fielding percentage is a junk stat anyways, IMHO.

[Imran Siddiqui]

In defense, they are not horribly far apart, yes, but offensively it's no contest. Bellhorn is far superior to Wilson/Cairo.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

lackey is looking like the Wild Thing

wild thing you walk everything

[Lawrence of Arabia]

MAH MAH MAH MAH MAH MAAAANNNNNIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lawrence of Arabia]

nail biter in the bronz - this one could go either way!

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Looks like Vazquez got slapped around a bit.

...Sturtze just gave up a homer... to Coco Crisp. (You know you suck when...)

[asleepathewheel]

That Indians team is quite schizo this year. yikes

[Lawrence of Arabia]

leads the league in runs scored.

[EPW]

22-0 cleveland

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Wow...that's quite a score. Hooray!