Tax the rich!!! pt. 2

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
heres my plan

1. the bottom 50% of america (using the median income) pays 0% income taxes

Already done: http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/pub/irs-soi/00in01rt.xls

Check out G:149

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Well, if we aren't prepared to take power, fascism is indeed a real threat from capitalism.

I don't think anyone is prepared to take power, but do you think the fascist will be prepared before us? In Germany, it was really a special case I think.

[GePap]

I myself prefer use taxes over income taxes- tax consumption, NOT income. Obviously various things, like luxuries, entertainment, vices, stocks and so forth would be taxed as all different levels. I would keep things like property taxes though.

[Kidlicious]

I prefer only 3 taxes - on profit, rent, and interest, 100%.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
No, they just provide some extra employment for trust and estate lawyers and find ways to make tax-free transfers.

I mentioned this to Ming but he seemed to think estate taxes were still theft. I guess he has a point. All taxes are theft but they are theft for the common good and a necissary evil.

[Berzerker]

Tax does have a name, and it's:

ESTATE TAX

Tha Patriot Act has a name too, that doesn't mean it's patriotic. Politicians always give their legislation nice sounding names to distract from what they're doing... It's a DEATH tax! It's a tax on people who die, the fact it only applies to people who've acquired a certain level of wealth is irrelevant. Someone on your side argued that since only some people who die pay the tax, it can't be a death tax. Well, not everyone with an estate pays the tax either, so it can't be an estate tax.

Real simple: it's a tax on people who die. You don't die, you don't pay the tax... You don't use tobacco, you don't pay tobacco taxes - but that's still a tobacco tax. The fact the tax is imposed selectively means nothing...

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Real simple: it's a tax on people who die. You don't die, you don't pay the tax... You don't use tobacco, you don't pay tobacco taxes - but that's still a tobacco tax. The fact the tax is imposed selectively means nothing...

Tobacco tax is suppose to discourage you from using tobacco. According to your logic, 'death' tax must be designed to descourage you from dying.

I don't give a **** if we tax people for dying actually.

[Berzerker]

It isn't "according to my logic", I'm not the one who (allegedly or sincerely) wants high taxes on tobacco to discourage tobacco use. You're confusing the logic of politicians with mine and acting like I'm responsible for their desire to discourage tobacco use.

And of course you don't care, I'd bet you would be robbing graves if it was legal.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Me thnks you have your terms confused. The median is higher than the mean, i.e., most folks make less than the average wage.

If most people make less than the mean average then the median income is lower than the mean, almost by definition.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Berzerker


Tha Patriot Act has a name too, that doesn't mean it's patriotic. Politicians always give their legislation nice sounding names to distract from what they're doing... It's a DEATH tax! It's a tax on people who die, the fact it only applies to people who've acquired a certain level of wealth is irrelevant. Someone on your side argued that since only some people who die pay the tax, it can't be a death tax. Well, not everyone with an estate pays the tax either, so it can't be an estate tax.

Real simple: it's a tax on people who die. You don't die, you don't pay the tax... You don't use tobacco, you don't pay tobacco taxes - but that's still a tobacco tax. The fact the tax is imposed selectively means nothing...

Someone who is dead can NOT pay taxes- they are dead and no longer a person. I went over with Sky why this facile arguement is just that. Don;t repeat the same dumb arguements that have been refuted already...

[Berzerker]

Someone who is dead can NOT pay taxes- they are dead and no longer a person.

Liberals have found a way to tax the dead.

I went over with Sky why this facile arguement is just that. Don;t repeat the same dumb arguements that have been refuted already...

And your "refutation" was? Oh yeah, since you and some politicians call it an "estate" tax, it can't be a death tax. Of course, estates aren't taxed until the owner dies. So it's really a death tax, not an estate tax.

[Velociryx]

A thesis disproved by reality, Kuci.

Rather like Communism, then, eh?

-=Vel=-

[Velociryx]

***Resistence is futile...DP has been assimilated***

[Velociryx]

I prefer only 3 taxes - on profit, rent, and interest, 100%.

Well and good!

Without any incentive for profit, you have no incentive to WORK

You yourself have said that you agree with an individual's right to property, and if that is so, you set up a "have" and "have not" caste within your own proposed system that beats the pants off anything "rent" could do.

And without interest, you cannot finance future growth.

The future looks bright indeed for the folks in Kidville!



-=Vel=-

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by GePap


Someone who is dead can NOT pay taxes- they are dead and no longer a person. I went over with Sky why this facile arguement is just that. Don;t repeat the same dumb arguements that have been refuted already...

Dead people do pay taxes. A dead person is still required to fill out an income tax return and pay any due taxes for the year.