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    NLRB: Grad students in private universities lose the right to unionize!

    Labor Board Says Graduate Students at Private Universities Have No Right to Unionize (Published 2004)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/16/education/16union.html
    National Labor Relations Board rules that graduate students who work as research and teaching assistants at nation's private universities do not have right to unionize; case involves Brown Univ; Republican-controlled board reverses four-year-old decision involving New York Univ by board when it was controlled by Democrats (M)


    The fast-growing movement to unionize graduate students at the nation's private universities suffered a crushing setback yesterday when the National Labor Relations Board reversed itself and ruled that students who worked as research and teaching assistants did not have the right to unionize.

    In a case involving Brown University, the labor board ruled 3 to 2 that graduate teaching and research assistants were essentially students, not workers, and thus should not have the right to unionize to negotiate over wages, benefits and other conditions of employment.

    The Republican-controlled board reversed a four-year-old decision involving New York University, a private institution, in which the board, then controlled by Democrats, concluded that graduate teaching and research assistants should be able to unionize because their increased responsibilities had essentially turned them into workers.


    I hate this government so very much.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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  • #2
    wah!

    Kids today. They don't want to put in their dues.

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    • #3
      What the hell are you talking about?
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • #4
        WTF is wrong? Next you know, high schoolers would be unionizing and making demands over homework

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        • #5

          You're obviously not in the least aware of what grad students do.
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

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          • #6
            Lab work, to get their PhD.

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            • #7
              1. The work isn't necessarily "lab work."
              2. The work doesn't necessarily go to writing a Masters/Doctoral thesis.

              Anyways, that was a statement of fact, not a question.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #8
                What the hell do grad students need a union for anyway?
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #9
                  To bargain over wages, working conditions, health care, administrative practices, etc., etc. The same reasons any other group of workers would need a union for.
                  "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                  -Bokonon

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                  • #10
                    cept you aren't workers
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #11
                      I won't be one for another year. And the only measure through which they're not workers is the NLRB's dumbass ruling.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #12
                        What exactly do you call teaching a class or assisting a professor's research, if not working?
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                        -Bokonon

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                        • #13
                          Studying?

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                          • #14
                            That's idiotic. If teaching and assisting in research are "studying" instead of "working," then there's no such thing as "working."
                            Last edited by Ramo; July 17, 2004, 20:36.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ramo
                              What exactly do you call teaching a class or assisting a professor's research, if not working?
                              An opportunity ?

                              You could always flip burgers if you want...
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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