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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You know, I was thinking. We could give a QB one point per completion, but also take away, say 0.5 points, per incomplete pass. .
The RB's who have power catch alot of passes (did you pray today ). Imagine a common performance from a heavy duty RB, 25 rushes for 95 yards with maybe 1 catch and no TD's. Maybe 5 points for the guy who really controls the game. Compare him with the WR who catches 3 passes for 40 yards - 5 points. Who was more important? Now, maybe a 1/2 per rush is too much. I don't know if we can go with 1/4 point per rush (or even 1/2 for that matter, this may be moot). But if we can give RB's some kind of bonus for rushing attempts it would help even them out with receivers. Maybe we could give RB's 1 point per 10 yds rushing
Anyway, I'm not that attached to the idea. But I did notice last year how even 2nd and 3rd string WR's typically outscored all but the elite RB's who made a bunch of catches. Consider Jamal Lewis' performance last year, but he didn't have many catches, so the best RB in the league was getting outscored by average WR's because the latter got 1 pt for touches and he got none...
Giving QB's a point per completion, which I support, makes them so dominant. We can offset their power a bit by increasing the value of both WR's and RB's.
Oh, and let's seriously consider individual defensive players. I played both ways last year here at Poly and FFZ and found having 3 defensive guys much better - a much needed dimension we missed out on at Poly. I'd like to hear the objections to this since I can't see any downside...
I think I had Jamal Lewis last year. It wasn't all that great to see him have such monster yardage, yet still not score that many points. A 200 + yard rushing game is exceptional and the points should reflect that.
But I don't like rushing attempts. Some of these guys that get stuffed are still going to rack up points. You have some old school coaches that rush even if the rushing game is not working. They could have 15 rushes for 4 yards. That's not worthy of 7 or 8 points.
I propose lowering rushing yards to 1 pt/10 yards. Rushing in today's NFL isn't that easy. At the very least lower it to 15 and keep receiving at 20.
The only possible side effect is it makes RB's too powerful again. The only complaints I have had have been QB's aren't as important as running backs in our league. I say this because like a dumbass I keep drafting a QB first round . Maybe QB competed receptions will alleviate this enough even if the RB's do get 1pt/10 or 15 yards.
I propose lowering rushing yards to 1 pt/10 yards.
I think this is a great idea! Is anyone opposed to it? I want to have a robust debate so everyone can get their views in BEFORE the draft (after which rule changes will be very very very hard to get through).
It would make a 100 yard game worth 10 points instead of 5 in the old system. I think that works well.
The only complaints I have had have been QB's aren't as important as running backs in our league. I say this because like a dumbass I keep drafting a QB first round
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Just looking at the other league settings, and I like the points for a block. Have not played with that before.
Yeah, that is kind of interesting. They do have some wierd stats around .
I wish they had one for Yards After Catch (I'd rather award points for that rather than Total Yards) and one for Drops (to penalize recievers).
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
I also like the 10 points per 10 yards for RBs. It would give the pool more balance.
The 1.0/0.5 per completion/failure is dodgy to me, because it's not always in the hands of the QB. If he throws a perfect pass, but the WR drops it, I don't think the QB should be penalized for it.
If he throws a perfect pass, but the WR drops it, I don't think the QB should be penalized for it.
Yes, but if he throws a crap pass and the WR makes an amazing adjustment and catches it, he'll get a point for it .
What's Bapay?
Best Available Player At Yahoo. Basically in the OFFLINE DRAFT (which means we draft on THESE forums and then I input the results) if you take too long (go overtime) you get BAPAY'ed.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yes, but if he throws a crap pass and the WR makes an amazing adjustment and catches it, he'll get a point for it .
So what's the deal with the draft? We aren't using that order that's up there are we?
No. Up where, btw?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
). Imagine a common performance from a heavy duty RB, 25 rushes for 95 yards with maybe 1 catch and no TD's. Maybe 5 points for the guy who really controls the game. Compare him with the WR who catches 3 passes for 40 yards - 5 points. Who was more important? Now, maybe a 1/2 per rush is too much. I don't know if we can go with 1/4 point per rush (or even 1/2 for that matter, this may be moot). But if we can give RB's some kind of bonus for rushing attempts it would help even them out with receivers. Maybe we could give RB's 1 point per 10 yds rushing 
. Maybe QB competed receptions will alleviate this enough even if the RB's do get 1pt/10 or 15 yards.
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