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  • #16
    Re: Why is the US Picking on CUBA???

    Originally posted by Ted Striker
    So what exactly has Cuba done in the last 20 years that is such a threat to national security. Leave the little guys alone.
    Come to think of it, the US has been picking on the little guys since WWII.
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Solomwi
      Because the Cuban exiles and their descendants in south Florida make up a strong political block. This is one of the big reasons I want to see Cheney stay on the ticket and Bush/Cheney win. With a second term president and a VP with no shot at a run in '08, I think the embargoes can be lifted with minimal political fallout and Cuba can be reintegrated into the hemisphere.

      For the record, I have the same goal as Shi, but think a reintegration is the best way to accomplish it. Granted, in 1960, who knew Castro was going to have the lifespan of Dick Clark? The isolation approach has run its course and failed, though, and it's time to try something new. That can't be done as long as an incumbent is reliant upon Cuban votes to help deliver the state.
      This is true, the city of Miami should be named New Havana.
      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • #18
        Also, Cuba is a socialist country. We don't want them to be rich, otherwise people might think csocialism works and adopt socialism as a model. Thus the embargo.
        "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

        "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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        • #19
          Re: Re: Why is the US Picking on CUBA???

          Originally posted by Urban Ranger


          Come to think of it, the US has been picking on the little guys since WWII.


          China has a glorious record
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #20
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #21
              Re: Re: Re: Why is the US Picking on CUBA???

              Originally posted by Ted Striker
              Thanks for the agreement.

              Originally posted by Ted Striker
              China has a glorious record
              Interesting history book you have been reading there
              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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              • #22
                Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is the US Picking on CUBA???

                Originally posted by Urban Ranger



                Interesting history book you have been reading there


                Yeah, this one was written by those aggressive people of Tibet.

                Oh look it even has pictures!
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                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #23
                  I don't see a reason how Tiananmen was worse than Waco. We have no evidence how many people were killed in either case and both goverments are officially representing that it never happened.

                  On-topic, the only reason that I've known so far for the US' anti-Cuba attitude is:
                  Also, Cuba is a socialist country. We don't want them to be rich, otherwise people might think csocialism works and adopt socialism as a model. Thus the embargo.
                  If anyone knows any real reasons (DD, I'm looking at you), feel free to enlighten me.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by VJ
                    I don't see a reason how Tiananmen was worse than Waco.

                    Where did you get THAT from?????

                    Tianammen was a bunch of students peacefully protesting.

                    Waco was a bunch of belligerent wackos who were being served arrest warrants because of all those "harmless" firearms and explosives they refused to give up.

                    There is no question the government leadership on the scene screwed up, but the Davidians inside started the fire that eventually killed everyone inside the compound.

                    80 people were killed along with 22 children and there was a huge Congressional hearing along with several followup investigative reports on it.
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by VJ
                      I don't see a reason how Tiananmen was worse than Waco.
                      Waco was an opperation FUBARed from the begining. Tiananmen largely went down the way the Chinese wanted.
                      (DD, I'm looking at you)
                      Why look at me?
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • #26
                        Tianammen was a bunch of students peacefully protesting.

                        Waco was a bunch of belligerent wackos who were being served arrest warrants because of all those "harmless" firearms and explosives they refused to give up.
                        I'm pretty sure Chinese officials find their own way of presenting this interpretetation their way around.

                        There is no question the government leadership on the scene screwed up, but the Davidians inside started the fire that eventually killed everyone inside the compound.
                        I'm having a feeling that I should just STFU when I start speaking about another country's internal history with a native.

                        Why look at me?
                        When it comes down to international politics between US and a random hostile nation, I have a history (=one case) of completely misunderstanding the actual situation and meanings of different events when talking with you. Just trying to cover my back, that's all.

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                        • #27
                          DD tries his best to be inscrutable but he's an open book to me.
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #28
                            Sorry, Cuba can burn in the hell they created for themselves for all I care.

                            (What Ted? Not a single mention of Britney yet? )
                            "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                            "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                            2004 Presidential Candidate
                            2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                            • #29
                              er..... ted striker.... errr.... .......

                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by VJ
                                I'm having a feeling that I should just STFU when I start speaking about another country's internal history with a native.
                                Ted Striker and DD should take lessons from you.
                                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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