Bill O'Reilly sez you're unpatriotic if...

[Kuciwalker]

And you've only made the point that if the US doesn't commit terrorism that it will no longer be a terrist state, but on what basis do you make that assertion?

On what basis do I make the assertion that, if the US doesn't commit terrorism any more, it is no longer a terrorist state?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kucinich

And you've only made the point that if the US doesn't commit terrorism that it will no longer be a terrist state, but on what basis do you make that assertion?

On what basis do I make the assertion that, if the US doesn't commit terrorism any more, it is no longer a terrorist state?

No - the assertion that the US will no longer commit terrorism

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well he doesn't have to since the US doesn't commit terrorism anymore, as he said.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well he doesn't have to since the US doesn't commit terrorism anymore, as he said.

Nice try. I think you did fool young Skywalker though.

[Kuciwalker]

"fool" implies that the statement is incorrect

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kucinich
"fool" implies that the statement is incorrect

If you're not going to support the statement then I will just state that terrorist tendecies are an aspect of our culture much the same way that undemocratic tendencies reside in out culture.

You could say that Isreal is not a terrorist state too, and it may not commit terrorism anymore, but it most definitely will.

[Kuciwalker]

Please give examples of US or Israeli terrorism, please...

... "terrorism" meaning "violence deliberately directed against civilians".

[Imran Siddiqui]

Nice try. I think you did fool young Skywalker though.

Seeing how the statement is correct, I believe the only fool here is, once again, you.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

no actually you are the foooooooolio imran. you think govt grants rights, which is ridiculous. are u saying that in absence of govt, you dont have the freedom of speech?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kucinich
Please give examples of US or Israeli terrorism, please...

... "terrorism" meaning "violence deliberately directed against civilians".

The US.

1) Genocide of Native Americans.
2) Sinking of the Maine.
3) Violence against labor movement.
4) Violence against blacks. (KKK and such)
5) Violence against communists and anarcists.
6) Bombing of Cambodia, and other actions of Vietnam.
7) Atomic bomb use.
8) Violence against civil rights protesters.

The list goes on. And if you stretch the definition of violence you include such acts as recent as the reacuring terrorist threat warnings.

Isreal. Some one help me out on this, but Isreal is at a constant state of war against civilians. Right now they are bulldozing homes and launching missiles at civilian targets.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Kucinich
Please give examples of US or Israeli terrorism, please...

... "terrorism" meaning "violence deliberately directed against civilians".

The School of America

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Kidicious
The US.

1) Genocide of Native Americans.

Perhaps I should have said "recent". I thought it was implied.

2) Sinking of the Maine.

Spain did that, and it was a military vessel in the United States Navy.

3) Violence against labor movement.

Whether or not this occured the way you're implying, it's not terrorism in the least.

4) Violence against blacks. (KKK and such)

the KKK isn't the United States government, dumbass. Hell, the FBI prosecuted them!

5) Violence against communists and anarcists.

By the government? Anyway, police arresting people and sticking them in jail != terrorism.

6) Bombing of Cambodia, and other actions of Vietnam.

Military targets. Not terrorism.

7) Atomic bomb use.

Not terrorism.

8) Violence against civil rights protesters.

Not terrorism.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
no actually you are the foooooooolio imran. you think govt grants rights, which is ridiculous. are u saying that in absence of govt, you dont have the freedom of speech?

Yup, because anyone can use force to prevent your speech.

[MrFun]

Kucinich -- what about the School of the Americas?

[Kuciwalker]

WTF is that?