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  • #46
    Originally posted by Agathon
    Well, some people think that climate change isn't really occurring if they don't believe in it.
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=548&ncid=696&e=10&u=/ap/20040614/ap_on_el_ge/black_republicans


    The democrats are starting to lose one of their key players, the black population (though still overwhelmingly democrat, a general trend is showing that is starting to decline gradually). I won't believe in something that isn't true. I'm sorry, Agathon but you aren't right. Just accept you are wrong.

    And now look at this, Kerry is running into problems with younger voters.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4807949/site/newsweek/


    He's in trouble.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #47
      Good article, Ogie. I see that my title is no longer safe...
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      • #48
        The movie will get far more play than any of these sad little "rebutals" Honestly, the people who write and read those pieces are not the audience Moore is looking for. So you folks on the right huff and puff all you want- what we should wait for the is box office numbers as the season progresses. That will be the measure of Moore's sucess. The big question is whether it will make more money than "Bowling for Columbine"
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
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        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • #49
          The audience Moore is looking for is the leftist equivalent of gun-toting fundies in the Deep South.

          -Arrian
          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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          • #50
            Sales are, of course, the number one indicator of a work's importance and quality. As such, I think it's about time that we all acknowledge Ann Coulter as one of the greatest writers of our era.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by GePap
              The movie will get far more play than any of these sad little "rebutals" Honestly, the people who write and read those pieces are not the audience Moore is looking for. So you folks on the right huff and puff all you want- what we should wait for the is box office numbers as the season progresses. That will be the measure of Moore's sucess. The big question is whether it will make more money than "Bowling for Columbine"
              No it won't and these aren't sad rebutals. They are true and honest about the facts. Moore's little charade of bull**** is not true to the reality. It is just a left wing smoke screen that should be discarded of. His fiction movie will probably end up in failure.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #52
                Not really-he is looking for the masses that don't know who Dick Cheney is, the middle of the roaders. I think the most apt description of the movie was it as a political cartoon. What some people fail utterly to understand is that impressions work- just as the point of editorial cartoons is not to be factually correct but to convey a political point quickly and in a way that sticks in people's minds, so is this movie.

                So as i said, the right-wingers and their cronies can huff and puff all they want-let them, the people who listen to them would not go see this movie anyway, so they are really irrelevant. The question is, how many of those people in the middle will decide to watch the movie much like many people in the middle watched Bowling for Columbine.
                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Giancarlo


                  No it won't and these aren't sad rebutals. They are true and honest about the facts. Moore's little charade of bull**** is not true to the reality. It is just a left wing smoke screen that should be discarded of. His fiction movie will probably end up in failure.
                  You mean like Bowling for Columbine? Oh, I forgot, that one made plenty of money....hmmmm..interesting.
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
                  "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                  "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by GePap
                    Not really-he is looking for the masses that don't know who Dick Cheney is, the middle of the roaders. I think the most apt description of the movie was it as a political cartoon. What some people fail utterly to understand is that impressions work- just as the point of editorial cartoons is not to be factually correct but to convey a political point quickly and in a way that sticks in people's minds, so is this movie.
                    You are right. It is a political cartoon. That's how I took Bowling For Columbine. However it doesn't contain much in the way of fact and should be discarded of as humorous nonsense.

                    The question is, how many of those people in the middle will decide to watch the movie much like many people in the middle watched Bowling for Columbine.
                    Many people in the middle were not convinced by Bowling for Columbine. They saw it, but many people end up seeing bad movies for one reason or another. Moore's Bowling movie (not a documentary) was just a pile of rubbish.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                      Sales are, of course, the number one indicator of a work's importance and quality. As such, I think it's about time that we all acknowledge Ann Coulter as one of the greatest writers of our era.
                      This is what counts as insightful commentary from cut and paste man?

                      Ann Coulter whishes she had reached the same sized audience as Micheal Moore. But she never will, as while rightwingers are willing to read shrill hack pieces, hack pieces only work on the general public if they are entertaining, and one thing Ann Coulter is NOT is witty.
                      If you don't like reality, change it! me
                      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by GePap
                        The movie will get far more play than any of these sad little "rebutals" Honestly, the people who write and read those pieces are not the audience Moore is looking for. So you folks on the right huff and puff all you want- what we should wait for the is box office numbers as the season progresses. That will be the measure of Moore's sucess. The big question is whether it will make more money than "Bowling for Columbine"
                        Yep. That about sums it up.

                        Now, if only the Bushies would realize they lost all the arguments on the war some time ago, perhaps normality could return.
                        Only feebs vote.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Agathon


                          Yep. That about sums it up.

                          Now, if only the Bushies would realize they lost all the arguments on the war some time ago, perhaps normality could return.
                          Actually no again. The link of terrorism and Saddam was found a while ago... Bush won that argument. And he won the argument with the economy. Where does that leave the little agathon with? Nothing really.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #58
                            Can someone actually point to a lie by Moore from his latest movie? So far I've read countless venomous attacks on him and how his film is full of lies, but even that big long "Unfairenheit 9/11" (Horrible pun) article doesn't actually list any lies as far as I can see, and can be summed as, "Nasty Michael Moore is a bad man who says bad things about our great president."

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                            • #59
                              Gibsie, his other film Bowling for Columbine, had some clear misrepresentations in it. And from what I see in the articles I posted, there were several huge factual errors.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #60
                                This is what counts as insightful commentary from cut and paste man?


                                I save the interesting commentary for subjects that deserve it. Sadly, your lame posts don't and haven't for a long time now...
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