Why isn't this piracy?

[Whaleboy]

Trees:

[Solomwi]

These Greenpeace boarders just need to realize when their opinion is unwanted, uncalled for and unimportant. Somebody paid a chunk of money to send that stuff over there because somebody over there paid a chunk of money to get it. The boarders never enter the picture, it's none of their damn business, and they should have been kicked off the ladders as soon as they tried to come up.

Do-gooder busybodies

[DinoDoc]

Why didn't the crew shoot them? Were they not prepared to repel borders? It isn't as if they were facing SEALs.

[Solomwi]

If they're chained to the access ladders, why not get into port, break out the cutting torch and just remove the ladders from the side of the boat. Surely they can get another ladder up in plenty of time for the crew to disembark.

[Bereta_Eder]

There's only one pirate ship and that's the greek national team in portugal

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by problem_child
Actually piracy for money is alive and vibrant on the high seas (why is it called high seas, when all sea is at... sea-level?) especially in the Carribean and South-East Pacific. Any particular reason why this Green Peace piracy annoys you, as opposed to the thousands of pirates that also get away with it? I know alot of people find Green Peace really annoying, because they're abit up-themselves.

The high seas were called such to distinguish them from coastal or riverine waters subject to the jurisdiction of a sovereign nation. On the high seas, international maritime law applies, as opposed to national laws which govern waters closer to shore.

The difference with the Greenpeace scum and the other pirate scum (other than a few slit throats) is that the other pirate scum generally doesn't have the audacity to act right at the entrance to the ports of a major maritime power.

[Bereta_Eder]

in other news meier's pirates doesnt run on dos mode.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
i still don't see what the **** is the problem with GM foods.

For starters, the spliced genes get into the enviroment, screwing up everything.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


For starters, the spliced genes get into the enviroment, screwing up everything.

And the scariest thing is that GM foods are often not able to reproduce themselves. In the natural world you grow your crop and use the seed from the crop for next season. In the GM world you have to go to the companies selling the stuff to ensure you eat again next year..........the consequences of this are so scary that i'll never buy any GM what so ever, and will only vote for my politicians that say they will keep my country GM free.

[Urban Ranger]

That's correct, you can't grow next year's crop with seeds from the heavest this year. Which means big biotech companies are trying to undermine nature to create a monopoly, or at least a cartel, in the food market.

[child of Thor]

Our world is truely ruled by evil men and women

So this is why i support Piracy in this case - i think its core reason is a good one, one worth fighting for

[Sikander]

UR is a big environmentalist, as long as he confines his criticism to the west.

[Space05us]

PETA and Greenpeace activists should be shot on sight. It would raise the average IQ of the world by at least 10.

[Q Classic]

For starters, the spliced genes get into the enviroment, screwing up everything.

the scientific and technological aspect of gm foods don't scare me at all, and i fail to see why it should scare anyone else. spliced genes making it into the environment? they didn't create them; merely brought them into another organism. sure, the bug-resistant things might have unintended side effects... but it seems to me that even gm foods are somewhat vulnerable, just less so than "natural" foods. therefore, i don't see why bugs and other such things wouldn't adapt to the new circumstances, particularly since gm traits won't exactly overwrite other organism's traits in one fell swoop.

economically, i also don't see a problem. some of the gm stuff is far more nutritious and easier to grow than their "natural" counterparts. i personally can't taste the difference between a gm tomato, a normal tomato, and one of those organic tomatoes. i just know that by and large, a gm tomato and a normal tomato are far cheaper, seem fresher and more robust than the organic ones. i realize that just because i can't taste a difference doesn't mean others can't, but seriously? taste is psychological too. if you have a distinct fear or hatred of say, sardines, anything with sardines is going to be lacking to your tongue.

that said, i do have one problem with gm foods, and this is mentioned in your quotes here:

In the GM world you have to go to the companies selling the stuff to ensure you eat again next year......

Which means big biotech companies are trying to undermine nature to create a monopoly, or at least a cartel, in the food market.

it's the same problem i have with software patents. those ****ers aren't really creating anything, therefore it's an abomination that they can patent the genes and then use them how they want.

but that's a political/commerce issue, not a scientific one.

i still think greenpeace is a bunch of ****ing ****wits, and the environmental movement would be better served by saner people.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

For starters, the spliced genes get into the enviroment, screwing up everything.

the scientific and technological aspect of gm foods don't scare me at all, and i fail to see why it should scare anyone else. spliced genes making it into the environment? they didn't create them; merely brought them into another organism.

They are creating them, actually. They introduce new traits to a species by taking traits from another that is normally completely incompatible with it. So as far their subject is concerned, it is the creation of a new trait and the introduction of new genes to that species' genepool.


Personally, I go by the belief that if it isn't broken, you shouldn't fix it, 'cause we just end up ****ing around untill there really is a problem.