Yet another Iraqi lie refuted

[Berzerker]

NEWSFLASH! OSAMA LINK TO SADDAM PROVEN!!!




DNA tests yesterday of blood and tissue found on a Baghdad sidewalk revealed Osama bin Laden once stubbed his toe leaving behind for all to see evidence of an irrefutable link in support of George Bush's claim of ties between Al Qaeda and the Iraqi dictator!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by lord of the mark

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Did Nazi Germany and the USSR join force in attacking another country?

Poland?

for like a minute, literally. UR, you were PWN3D.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Its so............ sig material.

[Kuciwalker]

Yup

[Drake Tungsten]

Iraqi Officer Tied to Al Qaeda - 9/11 Commissioner
Sun Jun 20, 3:54 PM ET
By Peter Kaplan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks has been told "a very prominent member" of al Qaeda served as an officer in Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s militia, a panel member said on Sunday.

Republican commissioner John Lehman told NBC's "Meet the Press" program that the new intelligence, if proven true, buttresses claims by the Bush administration of ties between Iraq (news - web sites) and the militant network believed responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America.

"We are now in the process of getting this latest intelligence," Lehman said.

Commission Chairman Thomas Kean urged the administration to make any such information available to the panel quickly.

"Obviously, if there is any information (that) has to do with the subject of the report, we need it, and we need it pretty fast," Kean said on ABC's "This Week" program. "We'll ask for it and see."

He said the final report would be modified to take any new intelligence into account.

Lehman said the information, contained in "captured documents," was obtained after the commission report was written that stated there was no evidence of a "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda.

"Some of these documents indicate that (there was) at least one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very prominent member of al Qaeda," Lehman said.

"That still has to be confirmed, but the vice president (Dick Cheney (news - web sites)) was right when he said that he may have things that we don't yet have," said Lehman, a former Navy secretary.

Cheney and President Bush (news - web sites) continued to insist that Iraq had ties to al Qaeda after the commission report issued last week found no evidence that Iraq collaborated with al Qaeda.

Lehman did not say whether the additional information was given to the commission in response to demands from Kean and commission vice chairman, Lee Hamilton.

On CBS's "Face the Nation," Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) said the White House should comply. "I see no reason why not," the Arizona Republican said.

Democratic commission member Richard Ben-Veniste told NBC he hoped Cheney would provide information "on a current basis ... with respect to the individual that John Lehman has talked about."

The Bush administration has been accused by critics of using faulty intelligence about alleged weapons of mass destruction and Iraqi links to al Qaeda to push the nation to war.

Lehman said there was no evidence Saddam was involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America. But he said the recent information about the Fedayeen officer "demonstrates the difficulty that we've had in this commission."

"We're under tremendous political pressures -- everything we come out with, one side or the other seizes on in this election year," Lehman said.

The conclusion of the commission staff report, released last Wednesday, contradicted Bush administration contentions before and after the U.S.-led war on Iraq. The president argued a connection with al Qaeda constituted an unacceptable threat to the United States.

Some officials, including Cheney, suggested an Iraqi role in the Sept. 11 attacks. Bush later ruled out that possibility, but many Americans still believe it and critics have accused the administration of misleading the public.

Bush's Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) of Massachusetts, said the president owed the American public "a fundamental explanation about why he rushed to war for a purpose it now turns out is not supported by the facts.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20040620/ts_nm/iraq_intelligence_dc

[Ramo]

Come now, we've already been through this.

Regarding the Fedayeen connection, again that rests on the totally dubious claim that two people with similar names are the same person.

As for the Iraqi embassy's attempt at getting him back, he's an Iraqi citizen, that's what happens - especially given that Shakir got his job through embassy contacts and they likely were still there. That the Iraqis' attempt at getting him back was particularly insistent is all on Doug Feith's word, and he's not exactly the most truthful person around.

This is just pathetic. After all of this administration's lies on a connection, you're just swallowing another one.

[Drake Tungsten]

How is this an adminstration lie? A member of the 9/11 commission is the one telling it...

[Ramo]

Again, this is Feith's propaganda. You even posted the Weekly Standard article that leaked it.

[Drake Tungsten]

I guess the 9/11 comission will determine whether or not it's "propaganda", won't they? Why can't we just let them do their jobs instead of jumping to conclusions?

[GePap]

Maybe Drake, the commissioner,just like you, read that WS piece (seems very likely), and is making these assumptions.

Of course, it was the staff, backed by researchers who put together the report and got the OK from the FBI and CIA. In a line of credibility, the WS ranksWAY down from the report itself, and hence the commissioner.

[Ramo]

Exactly, they haven't reached a conclusion on this. So there is still no real evidence that there's a "collaberative relationship." So your claims of media bias regarding the 9/11 commission's report are total horsecrap.

[Drake Tungsten]

So your claims of media bias regarding the 9/11 commission's report are total horsecrap.

Not according to the chairman, vice-chairman and various members of the commission. I'm sure you know more about the issue than they do, though, undoubtably.

[lord of the mark]

the commision report stated that Atta didnt go to Prague in April 2001 - but make no reference to his two trips to Prague from Germany in May-June 2000. Why did they fail to mention these trips?

[Ramo]

Perhaps because even the Czech gov't isn't claiming that they know what happened in that trip?

Not according to the chairman, vice-chairman and various members of the commission. I'm sure you know more about the issue than they do, though, undoubtably.

Eh? Your article says that they've only recently looked into this, and obviously don't have all the necessary data to make a real conclusion.

[Drake Tungsten]

Eh? Your article says that they've only recently looked into this, and obviously don't have all the necessary data to make a real conclusion.

Look back a page or so. The commision members talked about how "mystifying" the media's attempts to portray the commission's report as a refutation of the Bush adminstrations position on an Iraq-Al Qaeda connection were. Hence the claims of media bias...