Reagan's Legacy - How will he be remembered?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ted Striker


Not really.

It makes alot of stretches. Here's a nice gem:

I don't care for most of his piece, but the facts, such as those pertaining to the airport that matters. Also, 300 troops from 3 caribean islands hardly makes much support.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
BTW, that article GePap linked to is crap. The guy claims that America invaded Grenada because we feared the progressive example set by Maurice Bishop. That doesn't make much sense, however, if you remember that the U.S. didn't invade until after Bishop had been executed by hard-line Marxist Coard.

Which the article mentions- challange the facts he gives, not his interpretation, which I do not care about.

[Drake Tungsten]

The Caribbean isn't exactly full of big armies (or armies at all, for that matter)...

Which the article mentions- challange the facts he gives, not his interpretation, which I do not care about.

If you wanted to only deal with the facts and not his interpretation of them, then why did you link to the article in the first place? That's pretty ****ing confusing. Just tell us the facts and leave the article you don't agree with out of it...

[GePap]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You didn't even have to read the article to say that once you saw who posted it and who wrote it.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
The Caribbean isn't exactly full of big armies (or armies at all, for that matter)...

Well, that vast Grenadan force was a huge threat...

[DinoDoc]

Well it's true. UR & Chomsky aren't people known for giving out reliable info.

PS Are you sure you couldn't have found a less rediculous article to prove your point? The facts you wish to put foward will get obscured by the stretches Ted points out.

[GePap]

First, I thought you mentioned my article, no choamsky, whom I do not read.

2- I assume everyone here has some level of education sufficent enough to be able to read through a piece and distinguish the relevant and important (facts that can be checked against) from the irrelevant (author opinion). Now, if I am overestimating the education, reading abilities, or intelliegence of anyone and their ability to handle an article like that, well, then my mistake.

[Drake Tungsten]

Since when are the opinions of the author irrelevant?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
First, I thought you mentioned my article, no choamsky, whom I do not read.

I would have quoted a different post. You shouldn't always assume everyone is talking about you.

2- I assume everyone here has some level of education...

People are naturally going to assume that if you post an opinion piece you agree with the editorial line and it only bogs the discussion down dealing with irrelevencies if that isn't the case.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Since when are the opinions of the author irrelevant?

If you can point to where the guy's opinions have him mistate facts, then go right ahead.

Ted made many claims of fact. This article, which is as baised as Ted, also makes statements of facts, and even though the author is biased, I also assume he has done more research than Ted, or at least, he provides statements that can be checked.

Lets take the airport for example:

Can anyone here disprove it was a British company that had been contracted to build the airstrip and that the runway lenght was not abnormaly long? Or provide a countersource to dispute those assertions?

There are plenty of times in which the opinion of an author is irrelevant, specially when it comes to research.

[GePap]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
People are naturally going to assume that if you post an opinion piece you agree with the editorial line and it only bogs the discussion down dealing with irrelevencies if that isn't the case.

That isn;t an opinion piece. It is an annalysis piece. Now, you guys may dislike and disagree with the annalysis, but it isn;t an op-ed nor a letter to the editor.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
That isn;t an opinion piece. It is an annalysis piece.

The difference is irrelevent to the point I was making.

[Drake Tungsten]

It is an annalysis piece.

And a piss poor one, at that...

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

It is an annalysis piece.

And a piss poor one, at that...

The difference is irrelevent to the point I was making.

Can you cite anything to contradict the facts he gives?

[DinoDoc]

Actually I don't give a damn about Grenada, I was just trying to keep the discussion from being bogged down.